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  1. TL1000RSquid

    TL1000RSquid ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    Teacher files charges vs. kid over gun sketch
    By Jessica Fargen and O’Ryan Johnson
    Saturday, June 14, 2008 - Updated 1h ago
    http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg?articleid=1100720
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    A Taunton teacher is pressing criminal charges against a 10-year-old student after she caught the fifth-grader drawing a menacing picture that depicts him, a gun and a figure of her with a “bullet whole” in her head.

    But the boy’s furious mother said she plans to fight the charge in court and believes Taunton police and her son’s teacher at the Mulcahey Middle School overreacted to the drawing.

    “Bringing charges against a 10-year-old? I’m irate. It’s caused a lot of turmoil to my son,” said Angela Smithson, who has enlisted the help of the American Civil Liberties Union to fight the charge.

    The teacher, Karen Boudreau, 44, filed a police report Wednesday after she yanked away from Cullen Smithson a drawing that depicted a girl named “Kailey” as well as a figure named “Mrs. Boudreau,” both with the words “bullet whole” next to them. A stick figure named “ME” is shown next to a gun, according to the report.

    Cullen will receive a summons to court to determine if there is enough evidence to proceed with criminal charges, police said.

    Boudreau told police she wanted to file charges “in the hopes that the system could help the child,” according to the report, which indicates that Cullen has unspecified “behavioral issues.”

    She told police “in this day and age with school shootings, she also has to think about the safety of the remainder of her class.”

    Boudreau believed Cullen was angry with her because she forced him to redo math work, according to the report.

    Boudreau declined to comment.

    Superintendent Arthur Stellar said the decision to seek criminal charges is up to each teacher. “I don’t know what her rationale was,” he said. “The point is the student ought to learn a lesson.”

    Smithson said while her son deserved the suspension, he shouldn’t be treated like a criminal. “He did not threaten. He was making a picture for himself. He wasn’t showing anyone. He didn’t go up to the teacher and give it to her. There were no threats.”

    Cullen gets good grades and does not get in trouble at school, she said. She also said her son works out his anger through drawing, she said.

    Sarah Wunsch, an attorney for the Massachusetts ACLU, called the accusations “appalling.”

    “This is sad that a teacher felt she needed to draw a child into the criminal justice system,” she said, adding she believes the charge won’t stand up in court because it doesn’t constitute a threat. “Everybody tells us this is not a kid who has serious problems.”

    Experts in school safety generally agree that filing criminal charges against kids should be a last resort.

    Dr. Ronald Stephens, head of the National School Safety Center in Westlake Village, Calif., said schools should have a team that includes counselors and police to evaluate perceived threats from children.

    “You have a threat assessment team sit down and determine what action should be taken,” he said. “School should be a safe place. . . . Teachers have been targeted and I can understand why they might be gun-shy.”

    However, Susan Cole, of Massachusetts Advocates for Children and Harvard Law School, sided with Cullen’s mother.

    “The drawing presented a perfect opportunity to address a child’s underlying needs,” she said. “Instead, by isolating, stigmatizing and criminalizing this behavior, what may have been an innocent action or a call for help could become a much bigger problem.”
     
  2. Paul Revere

    Paul Revere OT Supporter

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    yes, punish a 10 year old who knows nothing about guns instead of taking the opportunity to educate him.
     
  3. idleprocess

    idleprocess Bring a dollar with you baby in the cold cold grou

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    This "problem" will only get worse as we expect children not to ... be children. Children are full of energy, confused about the world, are dealing with hormones going nuts, not prone to behaving in an orderly fashion, and simply not capable of thinking about the world like an adult.

    I remember reading a piece that blamed much of the "problem" of growing "misbheavior" rates from boys in the primary education system on the declining number of men in teaching. The ever-increasing feminization of society might be proceeding on schedule with the adult population, but it has yet to succeed when it comes to young boys. The characteristics about men that lead many women to roll their eyes and throw up their hands are amplified by an order of magnitude with young boys, but this is no longer accepted as normal. Witness the ever-increasing number of children (especially boys) being diagnosed and medicated for behavior disorders - usually hyperactivity, and usually at the demand of the local school.

    EDIT. Here's that piece. http://www.lewrockwell.com/reed/reed102.html
     
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    okay guys, but drawing pictures of you shooting someone you know? That is disturbing. The kid needs to talk to someone.
     
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    the teacher over reacted. Yes, him drawing a picture that clearly depicts him killing his teacher should not be taken lightly, but pressing charges? It wasn't a direct threat, it was a picture. Give the boy some counseling and go from there. We've all gotten mad at someone and thought i'd be nice if they just no longer existed(as kids this is), but we may not have done or said anything like this kid did to express his dislike for his teacher.
     
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    I remember in 1st or 2nd grade we were playing with some Lego-type toys and I was trying to build a video camera. For whatever reason the camera was shaped like a big pistol, so the teacher kept breaking it and telling me "NO GUNS!"
     
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    Dude, the kid's 10.
     
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    In 2nd or 3rd grade I chewed a PBJ sandwich into the shape of a gun :o
     
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    did you draw pictures of you killing someone when you were 10? I didn't.

    I don't think it's healthy.

    I agree that arresting him and charging him with crimes is NOT the proper way to deal with this, but it's in no way normal.

    The kid needs to talk to a shrink. There are issues there.
     
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    we should press charges against every writer, director and actor who kills someone in a movie because it's scary
     
  11. Dumbstixlars

    Dumbstixlars Ron Paul/AR-15/Glock/old car/Scooby/R/C croo OT Supporter

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    Now we know why he drew that picture, teacher is obviously a bitch.
     
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    The letter L and the number 7 should be reconsidered also.
     
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    a 10 year old isnt aware of the severity to killing some one. who hasnt drawn pictures of themselves blowing shit up, shooting some one, burning things down, or played karate with their friends, pointed the nintendo duck hunt gun and their little sisters. this is all normal shit.

    if he were a violence prone child id say ok, send him to a shrink, but if hes well behaved and actually doing well in school, why fuck his shit up with expulsion and a criminal record... at 10 fucking years old?!?
     
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    TL1000RSquid ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    Thats what he should be in trouble for, by 5th grade he should know the difference between whole and hole. :mamoru:
     
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    It wasn't a spelling issue, it was a grammar issue. He was trying to say, "Bullet, Whole." As in, "Bullet, Whole, Mk1 Mod0, Qty 1." He was just doing inventory. He hadn't yet gotten to the rest of the label for Mrs. Boudreau, which should've read, "Boudreau, Mrs., MkBITCH, ModWHORE, Qty 1."
     
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    kellyclan She only loves you when she's drunk.

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    I agree up to the shrink part. I don't think he needs to talk to a shrink. He needs to talk to a father. The kid needs to learn what life and death is, and how his life is going to be.

    No idea what he's drawing? Doesn't know what to do with himself? Boys should be sent to fishing docks or cattle ranches from 8-14 to learn the responsibilities that come with testicles.
     
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    Picture of gun: No
    Picture of student shooting teacher in head: Yes
     
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    The swarthy boy's father appears conspicuously absent in this article.
     
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    Pressing charges is not the answer, but SOMETHING had to be done here. Counseling or something along those lines to at least find out what's going on.
     
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    teacher did the right thing, she pressed charges to bring attention to the issue so that the system can somehow help the child

    if she didnt press charges, nothing wouldve been done, the child will get a suspension and the mom will refuse any voluntarily recommendation to counseling, the kid will grows up thinking its ok to do that kind of shit and end up like cho or some gangbanger
     
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    yes, because every child whos had violent dendancies and thoughts has grown up to be a serial killer and mass murderer. thats why theres so many 2nd graders locked up in prison for life. because of drawings like these
     
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