Lower back problems

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  1. Ep

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    Especially with ab workouts. Everything I have tried hurts my lower back, from crunches, bicycles, leg raises/knee raises etc. Is this due to a bad lower back or weak core? How can I fix this problem, because I want abs more than anything else but my lower back prevents me from getting a good ab workout.

    I have had a lower back problem for a long time, but it definitely helped a LOT when I fixed my horrible posture. I think I might have sloppy posture while drumming as well, which doesn't help
     
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    I might try weighted standing crunches tomorrow. Don't foresee those hurting
     
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    crunches are basically training your body to have poor posture. If you want abs get your bodyfat down and use ab exercises that don't require spinal flexion.
     
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    Well I have read that bicycles, leg raises and jack knifes are pretty much the top exercises for abs and all three bother my lower back before I can complete a set.

    Planks are pretty much the only exercise I've tried that don't hurt. I definitely could lost some body fat, but I haven't trained my abs at all since I've been lifting, so I'm sure that isn't helping
     
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    goten2000 Tupac's Son

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    stretch your back. there are tons of exercises for lower back strengthening. i do this everyday before ab workouts and its turned my back from basically yours to perfect.
     
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    ...interesting. makes sense
     
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    so you're saying I should stretch and maybe do some hyper extensions or whatever, then abs? I'll try it, but not sure working my lower back will help right before abs
     
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    Don't stretch your lower back. Stretch the hip musculature and work on building hip mobility while you try to improve spine stability with exercises where you resist flexion, extension and/or rotation. As far as lower back strengthening, those with stronger lower backs are at higher risk for injury. Building strength in the hip muscles will spare the back.
     
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    hmm...sounds like i need to work on my hips....
     
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    dynamic flexing has helped my low back a ton, try and find a copy of magnificent mobility.
     
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    what exercises build up the hips?
     
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    How does this work? Is it because people with strong backs will try and use it inappropriately?
     
  13. Ep

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    so what can I do? I'm pretty new to all this. I just want to work my abs. Should I start with planks and standing abs? or what
     
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    lower your dbol dose
     
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    Dispelling the Glute Myth


    Also, single leg exercises like lunges, split squats and step-ups to train the legs while minimizing lumbar stress.
     
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    well the reason my doctor gave me regarding my lower back pains, in laymen terms, is that the lower spine wasnt getting enough lubricants. the way to lube it up was to do stretches to sort of hyper-extend the spine to allow the natural lube in. so i started stretching every time i worked out for less than 10 min. i havnt had any lower back problems since. yoga helps a lot as well.
     
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    Let's say you have two people who are deadlifting the same amount of weight. Lifter A moves 40% of the load with his back while Lifter B moves 60% of the load with his back. Lifter B is obviously more likely to hurt his back since he's applying more stress to it.
     
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    seems like the reason he might get injured is cuz he's doing it wrong, not cuz his back is strong.
     
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    weak hip muscles are part of the reason for my petellar-femural misalignment.

    My physiotherapist has me doing hip abductions and hip extentions, and side leg raises (with legs bent)
     
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    yeah magnificent mobility has a lot of those stretches and i do it before and after a work out, really helps out.
     
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    Thanks for that.

    I wonder if losing my hip flexibility had to do with my back injury and current back soreness I get once in a while.

    Back when I was doing football, rugby, martial arts in high school I was extremely flexible and worked on it regularly.

    I spent a couple years really foregoing any stretching or flexibility movements (especially in my hips) and ended up hurting my back. I know my hip flexibility sucked because for a while I had trouble getting parallel on squats when years ago I would go below parallel no problem.
     
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    What do you suggest?

    I've always been a huge fan of hanging leg raises but wasn't sure if that was enough.
     
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