Loss of strength?

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  1. ~*Pogovina*~

    ~*Pogovina*~ Whip it! Whip it good!!

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    I was able to lift more last Monday when I did biceps and back. Yesterday, I had to lower the amount of weight by nearly HALF! My muscles were still a little sore from last time because I've been training HARD, but why such a huge loss in strength? :hsd:
     
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    overtraining? what does ur program look like?
     
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    Just like you said, your muscles hadn't fully recovered yet.
     
  4. truth

    truth Don't just stand there, bust-a-move!

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    people do have off days..

    there are so many factors you would have to specify

    like your diet, for example. having depleted glycogen levels are going to affect your energy which will affect the amount of weight you move...
     
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    well, I've just switched over from 90% cardio 10% weights to actually working specific groups on specific days, then adding cardio once to twice a week. I push hard because I only work out 3 days a week.

    my trainer has just started me on this new program so I don't remember everything he has me do during the course of a week...
     
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    truth Don't just stand there, bust-a-move!

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    are you cutting or at maintenance in terms of diet
     
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    :hs: i basically eat low carb, low sugar and "healthy" beyond that. I don't take any suppliments including vitamins- which i should, i know. i generally don't eat before hitting the gym, because I had a bad experience once with ab day and a bit of food in my stomach... :o
     
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    i'm trying to cut and am doing a good job at it, but am now trying to put some strength training/ toning into it because I'm sure I've lost muscle with as much as I've cut in the last 6 weeks
     
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    how low-carb exactly? glycogen depletion could definitely cause what you are experiencing. TKD might be a better approach for you if this is the case.
     
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    i try not to take in over 50g carbs a day. sometimes i go a little over, sometimes under...

    tkd?
     
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    Targeted Ketogenic Diet... low carb diet with carbs before/after weights basically

    from Lyle's Keto book:
    Targeted Ketogenic Diet (TKD)
    The TKD might be considered a middle of the road approach between the SKD
    and the CKD. Instead of incorporating the longer carb-up period of the CKD, the TKD
    incorporates carbohydrate consumption either before or after the workout, with the
    rest of the day adhering to the SKD setup.
    That is, the TKD is simply an SKD with carb consumption right around the
    workout to help sustain performance and/or improve recovery. The TKD tends to be
    best for individuals who want to follow a SKD but aren’t able to do the necessary
    volume or intensity to make a CKD work (i.e. many beginner exercisers). As well, for
    those individuals who are using an SKD for some health reason (usually to control
    hyperinsulinemia or insulin resistance), a TKD is more appropriate as the carb-up of
    the CKD tends to make the symptoms these folks are trying to control worse.
     
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    truth Don't just stand there, bust-a-move!

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    lol...that's basically what i assumed.

    don't confuse her with tkd.

    on top of what you do...try this

    go to the diabetic section of your supermarket

    grab some glucose tablets (i've only come across the dex4 brand, which is 4g of fast acting carbs) you can get up to 5g

    take this 5-10 minutes before you lift weights

    and also you can sip on gatorade (electrolytes and carbs) during your post workout. i would only drink half of a 20oz bottle

    this will only add minimal calories to your diet, and the benefits are greater, for being able to train with better intensity, resulting in a better lbm:fat ratio.

    women just love to diet this way. (low carb, low sugar, low cal, etc. -- women love crash diets)
     
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    :hahano:
    i hate crash dieting, I've just found what works without starving myself like some dumb bitches. I KNOW that if I don't watch what I eat and how much, i will balloon back up to 180. Having a post surgery hip/knee doesn't help because unlike most fat-asses out there, i can't just get up and run/walk the weight off. I work HARD to make myself healthier.

    Sure I'm gonna make mistakes, this is the first time I've had the need to push myself hard to get/stay in shape because before I got sick I was in great shape. But don't be a condescending dick about it. That's unnecessary.
     
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    truth Don't just stand there, bust-a-move!

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    whoaaa back off..you took it the wrong way, lol.

    i was just saying, women in general love to crash diet.

    and crash dieting has its purposes. it's just that it needs to be done properly.
     
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    Dante: "I was making a broad generalization"
    Veronica: "You were making a generalization about broads"
     
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    truth Don't just stand there, bust-a-move!

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    :rofl: i <3 clerks
     
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    all that to say - try some dextrose pre-workout or some gatorade pre/during (like truth suggested). That may very well help your problem
     
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    truth Don't just stand there, bust-a-move!

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    dissolving a glucose pill and drinking 10oz gatorade isn't easier?

    and you're advising she consume 30-50g both pre and post workout? what kind of carbs?

    you're assuming she trains with high intensity?

    given her diet and what i'm assuming is a decent training program, i would think the glucose pill and gatorade would be a bit better for her.
     
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    truth Don't just stand there, bust-a-move!

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    agree to disagree.

    for me, it's easier to take a glucose pill and sip gatorade. i don't recall saying it was better, but i could have mentioned easier, for me.

    i'm done with oatmeal until i'm back on maintenance.

    but yes, i'd agree with your points and concepts.

    definitely agree kind of carb doesn't matter as some people swear by. a large banana is just fine post workout for insulin spike, you don't HAVE to eat sweettarts, lol
     
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    no/low carbs makes me weak, tired, grouchy, etc.
     
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    don't forget tho, christophers is a power lifter. for him dieting is just a switch between regular or extra crispy. ;)
     
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    it makes me a little cranky at first, but i can't deny that i lose insane waterweight and keep the poundage off. my only problem is that I can't go more than 1.5 weeks on no/low carbs or i get *really* sick.
     
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    when doing no/low carbs you should take at least 1 day a week to ' carb up'. Especially if your making no/low carb a regular thing.
     
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