Looking to learn UNIX/LINUX

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  1. rebel

    rebel Manchester United > All

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    Where do I start? What OS should I install?
     
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    Penguin Man Protect Your Digital Liberties

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    If you want to use it as your desktop OS, I recommend Ubuntu (http://www.ubuntulinux.org). If it's just for fun and to learn some stuff, then any Linux distro or FreeBSD will do, just depends what you're looking for :dunno:
     
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    fedora is the best first-distro. Work your way to gentoo.
     
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    Sorry to hijack your thread. I've tried linux myself, but I can never get my wireless NIC to work. Which distro has the best support for wireless NICs built-in?
     
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    MO' Fuckin :werd:

    freebsd handbook > *

    IMO atleast....taught me the most in the shortest amount of time, went from killing any distro i installed in less than a few hours to running freebsd for months on end without any *major* headaches....
     
  7. col_panic

    col_panic calm like a bomb Moderator

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    check the hardware compatibility lists for each distro you might want to try. freebsd works great with my d-link wireless pcmcia nic
     
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    all distros are about the same. Unless you switch to a supported card, you'll have to compile support yourself. MadWifi is what I've always used with my cards... Pretty easy to get working.

    Most people seriously involved with linux enough to contribute to a distro/kernel are VERY funky people, and they love crappy hardware. It's hard to find modern hw support in a distro, stock.
     
  9. Penguin Man

    Penguin Man Protect Your Digital Liberties

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    Actually, Ubuntu (and other debian-based distros I would imagine) come with ndiswrapper precompiled.
     
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    lol I got tired if fucking with ndiswrapper and linuxant so I just bought an orinoco card for my laptop

    I use a couple different distro's around the house...I run vector linux on my laptop, I run mepis linux on a older web surfing computer that my gf uses and I have red hat es on my LAMP server....so my house is windows 1 linux 3
     
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    Penguin Man Protect Your Digital Liberties

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    My house is Linux 2 OSX 2 Windows 0 ;)

    I've had no problems at all using ndiswrapper/wpa_supplicant with my Linksys wireless card. Works quite nicely actually, and easy to setup under Ubuntu.
     
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    I like ubuntu, but for some reason it randomly shut down my laptop. I'll try it again eventually, but I formatted my computer so I could get my IP phone for work installed on my laptop properly and haven't put it back on.
     
  13. kingtoad

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    :sad2: Why should I install ubuntu over gentoo?
     
  14. RaginBajin

    RaginBajin Have you punched a donkey today?

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    Wait, why are you looking to learn Unix/Linux? Are you trying to get a job somewhere or just for fun? If you are trying to look for job, then I would say you want to look into Centos. Centos is the Red Hate Enterprise Linux Clone. Lots of companies that are looking into Linux are looking for something that has been deemed Enterprise safe, which RHEL is.

    If you are just looking for fun then Ubuntu is great especially with their LIVE CD they have.
     
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    Every no name card I have works great with NDISwrapper. Lots of people disagree with the moral effects of using binary only drivers in linux, but I could care less.
     
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    you shouldn't. Gentoo is the ultimate linux distro.
     
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    A few people on OT went from Gentoo to Ubuntu. I'm just wondering why people are switching. What is Ubuntu offering that Gentoo does not? I have Gentoo running right now, but I know more and more people are starting to migrate over to Ubuntu. I am becoming curious about it now. :noes:
     
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    I dunno, but if you go to their offical site, they ship cds for free. I ordered a couple copies to give it a try. No harm in learning a new distro...
     
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    Yea, everyone I've talked to has told me to try ubuntu... :noes:
     
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    well, i gave ubuntu a try today. Needless to say, I'm currently re-compiling gnome on gentoo, right now. Ubuntu was a piece of shit.
     
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    Good job explaining WHY ubuntu is a piece of shit... I DEF prefer your opinion over the 5+ friends who suggested it to me after all of that :ugh2:
     
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    i really don't give a shit what distro you use, and i'm too fucking frustrated right now because gnome takes for fucking ever to compile, and my gf is at work so she can't make me feel better right now.... so go try ubuntu and have fun with that piece of shit that still installs a shitload of bloat unless you do a mini install and compile everything and then your system is still slow unless you re-do what they gave you, and if you're gonna do all that shit, you might as well go with a REAL distro, like gentoo, which does that all from the start.

    Real men use gentoo
    Lazy bastards use fedora.
    Faggots use ubuntu.
     
  23. kingtoad

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    :o Don't think I'll be switching to Ubuntu then. Unless someone starts providing some positive info about it.
     
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    Fuck it. :o I'm going to try it tonight.
     
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    have some gentoo cds handy... then if you get frustrated with that piece of shit called ubuntu, you can switch to something good. And if you don't get frustrated with ubuntu, then you should still do a custom install with gentoo and it'll blow your mind how fast and lean it is. Except for the part of compiling gnome... that's not fast... fuck its going on 4 hours and still no end in sight.... but when it's all done, it's fast to use. And you don't have to re-do it unless you get stupid and want to try a piece of shit like ubuntu. stupid me.
     

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