MIL Looking to join the Army (hopefully Rangers), but my knee sucks.

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  1. D-FENS

    D-FENS New Member

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    Here's the story: I'm a senior in HS now, planning on doing Army ROTC, then hopefully getting into the Rangers. Last May, I dislocated my kneecap, fucked it up pretty bad, had to get artho to have some bone chips removed, about 2 months of PT. Dislocated again in June, and last week, I felt it pop out of place (not totally to the side like the last two times, but still about 1.5 - 2 inches out of place). My parents worry that with my shitty knee, I have no chance of getting into the Rangers, and that chances of any other major combat unit would be unwilling accept me, and that my only chances in the military are with some desk job.

    How much would this knee problem effect my chances in the military? And keep in mind I still have 4 years of college to go through first, which I feel would be plenty of time to get my knee back into the shape it used to be.
     
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    douche worry about getting in the military before you worry about rangers its way ahead of you.... can you run 5 miles in 40 minutes do 8 pull ups 78 sit up and 72 push ups? if not then reprioritize
     
  3. whitecouch

    whitecouch spendin' our golden years in OT Supporter

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    I love how people automatically assume that they want to be a ranger, seal, sniper, etc.
     
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    D-FENS New Member

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    I'm not setting my decision in stone, but I have done a good amount of research, and Rangers is very appealing to me.
     
  5. whitecouch

    whitecouch spendin' our golden years in OT Supporter

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    With your knee even having the chance of popping out you do not want to be infantry or a ranger. Imagine being out in the field, hundred miles from nowhere, suddenly you come under fire, you're running to get back in the humvee and your knee pops out. Have a death wish much?
     
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    Ranger-AO I'm here for the Taliban party. Moderator

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    Your biggest hurdle will be getting past the medical screeners at MEPS. Your knee history will get you a trip to a specialist who will give you a GO or NO GO for entrance into the military. They are going to want to verify that you have been problem-free for a set period (I don't know how long that period is). Your history of multiple problems with your knee, even after surgery, is probably going to make their decision very easy.

    If you lie about your medical history, and they don't catch it during yoru MEPS physical, you run the risk of blowing out your knee during basic (a very real possibility). Then the first doctor that looks at your blown knee will see that you had arthroscopic surgery. He will check your medical questionaire and find that you didn't list it, and you will be discharged.

    In my opinion, your only hope for even getting into the military will be to go for at least a full year without any problems with your knee. During that year, get periodic examinations from your doctor, and ask him to document each exam in a letter that you can present to the MEPS doctors when you try to enlist. After the year, go to MEPS with the letters from your doctor that shows that your knees are fit and ready for action. This will make it harder for the specialist they send you to to just take the easy route and write you off without a second thought.

    AFTER you make it past the gate keepers at MEPS, you will have to make it past basic training with your knees intact. This will not be easy, given your history. You are going to be running a LOT, marching a LOT, carrying a heavy load at LOT, and doing several long-distance marches with full ruck sacks and battle gear.

    All of this is designed to make healthy bodies stronger while disciplining the mind to overcome hardship. It is also designed to root out anyone that has a physical or mental issue that could get them or their fellow soldiers killed. You need to face the high probability that you will blow your knee out and end your military career before you ever even get to a point where you would be able to start training to become a Ranger.

    Assuming you make it past MEPS, and graduate from basic and AIT, you will still have to go through Ranger school. I would suggest that you enlist as an 11B, without the Ranger option. Put off the decision to go through Ranger school until after you get a feel for what you are signing up for - and whether your knees can cash the checks your head is writing for them. Every Infantry unit sends soldiers that volunteer to go to Ranger school. You aren't losing anything except a higher enlistment bonus by putting the decision off a little.

    I would love to see you put that Ranger tab on your shoulder and prove us all wrong. But I would hate to hear that you did irreparable damage to your body because nobody ever warned you to take it one step at a time.
     
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    Gaunt blood for the blood god OT Supporter

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    if you want to do ROTC and get contracted then you will need a dodmerb and with that knee more then likely you wont get med qualed
     
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    I thought it worth mentioning that I went to basic with a guy who went the above route to get into the marines. He had full documentation of a year or two without recurring injuries, etc. Some long march that the Marines do (forget the name right now) caused him to have knee failure. He was medically released. He AGAIN went through the surgery, documentation, waiting and joined the Air Force. He struggled with pain and several close calls during basic training but made it through. Now he works an office job. Weigh your options.
     
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    The doctors said that medically, my knee has no problems besides the weak tissue from the first dislocation, so there was no damage to the major ligaments. And it has still only been about 7 months since the first dislocation. I'm worried because the ROTC scholarship deadline is the end of this month, and I do not want to commit to the military if the only job I can take is a desk job. After I apply for the scholarship, how much time would I have to back out if I found that my knee wasn't getting any better?
     
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    what he said
     
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    and why dont you just take rotc and not use their scholarship.
    That way you have till the start of your junior year to take the physical
     
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    Because the scholarship means saving me and my parents several thousand dollars.
     
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    well if you take the scholarship, you have to take the physical right away. If you lie and somehow pass the physical, then get hurt and can't finish rotc and they find there was previous injuries, your gonna lose your scholarship and may be liable to paying some of it back.
    And by the way, as an officer, you dont just go join the Rangers as you say. So you might as well get that idea out of your head.
     
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    You will have to pay all of the scholarship back with interest. So essentially you are playing with fire.
     
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    are you going into college with the scholarship? If not, just becaue you are in ROTC does not mean an instant contract, it might be your junior or senior year before you get contracted out and the army starys paying for shit.
     
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    Gaunt blood for the blood god OT Supporter

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    my friend fractured his cheek bone and needs to get a waiver to get med qualed. go ahead and submit the scholarship with the schools that you want to go to. if the high command clears you to beable to get a scholarship you then get the dodmerb, then you interview at teh university and they decide if you are going to get a scholarship from them. the army doesnt give nation wide scholarships like the navy.

    but first get the dodmerb and dont lie on it.
     
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    scholarship ftw. this has got me thinking, if i fuck myself in some accident, not training related, is it up to their discretion wether or not i pay back the money?
     
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    if you get hurt,for any reason and can not commission you will have to pay the money back.
     
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    hey there, where do i sign up for the seals? I played the Navy seals video gamee on my playstation and I think thtas the career for me :bigthumb: :naughty: ;) :)
     
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    www.navy.com?
     
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    i have flat feet, that might fuck me over too
     
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    I'm almost in the same boat as you are. I talked to my captain today to see if I should delay getting my phyiscal done since my doc thinks I might have torn my miniscus. He said to go ahead and do it. If I don't pass I would be re-evaluated next year.
     
  23. cossack

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    ok, i also have knee problems and am actually in the army and went to infantry school. i had a very minor knee problem from playing frootbal in 10th grade (now 3 years ago) and after osut that knee is torn to fuck and back. fyi.
     

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