GUN looking for a smaller CC gun, ruger lcp, kel-tec 360, snubnose revolver?

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  1. maleman876

    maleman876 New Member

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    currently have a glock 19 and a tarus pt111. something smaller to carry would be nice sometimes.

    friends dad just got a ruger lcp and really likes it. thinking of something along those lines. i can get one for just under $300 it seems.

    i dont know much about the kel-tec but i assume its not good.

    a little .38 snubnose hammerless revolver would be cool, but they seem to be more expensive.

    looking for ideas and opinions...
     
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    LCP is a great gun, only problem is trying to find .380 ammo and if you find it not pay nearly $1/round.
     
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    .380 ammo is a bitch to find, considering seeing if I can find someone to trade my Bersa Thunder .380 + Cash for a compact 9mm due to the fact I can't find ammo for it that I'm willing to pay for.
     
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    are there any 9mm guns about the same size as the lcp? my roomates glock 26 is the same size as my taurus.
     
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    I have a kel-tec P3-AT that I used to carry daily. Anymore it just sits and collects dust. Partly because I don't trust .380 anymore and partly due to the fact that ammo is non-existant or expensive as hell. Aside from that, it ran fine and was nice to pocket carry. It's not very fun as a range toy however, which factors into practicing with your carry gun.

    If I were buying another super small gun I'd definitely look towards revolvers. Possibly a kel-tec PF-9.
     
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    tiny autos have shitty terminal ballistics and a well deserved reptuation for questionable reliability. A 442 or 642 is a huge jump past it. Save a little more money and get the better gun.
     
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    Anymore what?
     
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    Anymore cocks in your mouth? :naughty:

    Missed the space bar.
     
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    anymore cocks and it just sits and collects dust?
     
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    i'd go with a revolver and skip the .380

    ammo availability
    reliability
    a bit underpowered

    i liked the crazy small size of the LCP but it felt cheap and flimsy to me.

    i love my S&W 642 and my glock 26.

    i haven't regretted passing on the LCP at all
     
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    Any more... Meaning now it sits.
     
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    GlassUser send an email not a pm OT Supporter

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    That's not what "any more" means.
     
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    Would you like me use nowadays from this point on Capt. Grammar?
     
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    dont make him quit OT again dick :hsugh:
     
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    the 442/642 looks nice. whats the difference in them? looks like one is black and thats it?

    is .38spl as hard to find as 380?
     
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    if the black color doesn't matter you can save a few $ and go with the 642. my wife loves hers, i love mine. sure it would be nice to have more than 6 rounds but then again the LCP only carries 6+1 so not a huge difference with a less powerful round used by the LCP

    .38 spl is tough to find as is all ammo these days but much MUCH easier than the .380. defensive rounds are pretty easy to find for the .38 but target ammo is tough to locate. .380 is pretty much hard to find any ammo
     
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    .38 is MUCH easier to find, at least around here.
     
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    how is the recoil on a small framed gun like that?
     
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    i don't think it's too bad. it's sure not a range gun it'll beat up most hands if you fire a bunch of rounds through it. my wife's hand gets beat up pretty good when she takes it to the range.

    it doesn't recoil to the point that it's gonna be an issue imo. maybe if ya were shooting .357 through it it would be bad but with the .38+p it's very managable in my opinion, but i have seen people complain about it

    the only thing i don't like about any small gun is the tiny grip, i'm a big guy with big hands so i just feel like a monkey fucking a football anytime i'm holding sub compacts.


    i carry the 642 everyday and i feel perfectly safe with it, it would be nice to have 10 rounds instead of 5 but honestly how many shooting situations require more than 5, 5 shots i should at least be able to flee the area to safety
     
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    I shot a PF9 this past weekend and loved it. 0 issues through maybe 20 magazines, both FMJ and a few JHP.

    If you've got large hands, you might not be able to get a good grip on it. If you can't work a DAO trigger, you probably won't like it. I think the trigger is just fine, but I've talked to others that said it was terrible for them.
     
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    i like the 642/442. they look to be about $430 online.

    went by the local gun shop today at lunch. they had a used one on cosignment for $500, and new ones for $550 :ugh:
    then they wanted $40 to FFL transfer. :hsugh:

    called a pawn shop i go past on the way to work, $20 :coold:

    i told them all this to see if they could at least make a sale, but they didnt budge. im all for supporting local businesses, but if theyre going to price themselves out of the market then that's their fault.
     
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    i handled one at the shop today. i really liked the way it felt.

    the DA trigger is fine. my taurus is DA and its less enjoyable to shoot at the range than my glock, but its fine for an emergency use.
     
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    holy shit, even cabellas is cheaper than that, they're $4?? even with their big ole markup. $500+ for a j frame is a bit pricey you can absolutely find better
     

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