GUN Looking for a CMMG upper? Great deal on 14.5" M4 uppers

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  1. Jimmy Pop Cornholio

    Jimmy Pop Cornholio forsakenisanidiot.info

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    Company I work for has a few 14.5" uppers in stock that they want to move. They are brand new CMMG 14.5" M4 uppers with permanently attached flash hiders making them exactly 16". These come 100% complete and are priced at $515 SHIPPED, retail on these are $580. I have got a couple people on OT asking me about products and yes I can hook you up on a lot of things. The place I work at mostly deals with optics, rings, uppers, etc but can get just about anything.
     
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    i'll be PMing you about this in a few months :x:
     
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    I spoke to my boss about your special order and he said let us know a week or so ahead so we can have CMMG get the order done so that way when you are ready its already made. Usually takes CMMG 1 week to assemble special orders
     
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    KNYTE I'm Not Kidding.

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    What are the sights?
     
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    Clusive Happiness is a belt-fed weapon.

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    Third one down?

    http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/shop/?shop=1&cart=823253&cat=27&
     
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    How about some 1" Burris Signature Zee rings?
     
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    Gloss? Nickel? Matte? Low/Med/High?
     
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    I cannot understand why people would buy a 14.5" barrel, and then make it 16". You lose all the advantages of the 16" barrel, gain the length, and gain the disadvantages of the 14.5's shorter effective range. Then, on top of that, your FH is permanently attached. You can't easily swap it for another one that's better, or different, or whatever.

    I'm building a 14.5" upper, but it's midlength, and it'll be on an SBR'd lower.
     
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    Came in here to post this
     
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    For those of us in states where the minimum length you can have is 16"....
     
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    It's a federal regulation. Every state has to have a minimum of 16" unless you drop the $200 and SBR it.
     
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    The flash hider on a 16" barrel doesn't add much length at all, plus you can switch out hiders if you want. It just seems pointless to me to degrade your accuracy, and make switching hiders impossible. It's not like the extra length is making it any harder to carry.
     
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    the accuracy of the rifle itself is not affected, what is affected is that it is more likely to be affected by inconsistent powder burns, and thus the muzzle velocity is inconsistent.
     
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    Because a lot of people like them. We sell more of these than we do regular 16" barrels. Accuracy isn't really affected but your velocity is. It's just a personal choice but some people don't want to go through the SBR paperwork or pay the money.
     
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    We sill have a couple of these
     
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    Matte and lets say Med for now.
     
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    $27 + shipping

    Burris model #420521
     
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    That's the point that I'm trying to make!

    Let's see if I can state this more clearly:


    Pros of an un-SBR'd 14.5" barrel-
    -Someone wants it.

    Cons of an un-SBR'd 14.5" barrel-
    -Velocity is SIGNIFICANTLY affected. The effective range of the rifle drops dramatically.
    -It's STILL 16 INCHES LONG!
    -You cannot easily remove the flash hider for replacement.
    -It's readily apparent that the owner of such a barrel owns that firearm for show, not for practicality or usefulness, or even true coolness.

    You sell them like hotcakes because you have failed as dealers to EDUCATE your customers. If you were to explain to them why their wants are WRONG, they might actually want the right thing. People like you are the reason we have Christmas decorations for sale before Halloween. You'll sell anything that someone wants to buy.
     
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    M193 fired from a 16" barrel will be effective out to around 150 meters. Out of a 14.5" barrel, that number drops to about 100 meters. That's a significant distance.

    Now, I do realize that most AR owners are not going to ever test that effective range. But the AR is a fighting rifle. All rifles, all FIREARMS should be maintained as fighting tools. All men and women should be educated about their tools, and know how to fight with them. They should know the strengths and weaknesses of their tools. You're sending people out the door with a shiny new toy, not a tool. The attitude that this perpetuates is that firearm are cool. They're great to shoot and to show off. Why bother buying something EFFECTIVE and purposeful? This way of thinking is HUGELY detrimental to firearm owners. When firearm owners stop thinking of their firearms as a RIGHT that is to be protected, as a TOOL to protect that right and all others, then we are doomed to fall prey to those who would deprive us of that right and those tools. It's far easier to take something from someone who simply enjoys that which you are taking that it is to take something from someone who NEEDS that thing, cherishes it, and believes it to be a necessity.

    I am not opposed to people owning firearms that they shoot for enjoyment, so long as they still possess the mindset to use firearms as implements of defense. So long as they understand what makes one firearm more effective and useful than another, and why one would want that. Firearms should be fun, but not at the detriment of all else.

    EDIT:I own a 14.5" barrel. It is not because it's cool. It's because it was a great price on a Noveske midlength. Because that 1.5" DOES make a difference when you mount a suppressor. Because I am willing to spend the money on 75 gr. ammunition to make up for the difference in effective range caused by the shorter barrel.
     
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    KNYTE I'm Not Kidding.

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    Relax there bucko.
     
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    You don't work in retail, do you? If you tell a person why what they want is wrong, they are gonig to stop listening to you and just go somewhere else that is happy to sell them what they want.
     
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    lol what if they want a lighter and shorter upper? :hsughno:
     
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    im going to get a 14.5" just to piss you off :mamoru2:
     

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