LIKE NEW- 95 RX-7 or 95 Supra?

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  1. $lacker

    $lacker FD/Dental/Canadian/Cage Crews OT Supporter

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    Which would you prefer and why?

    95 RX 7 turbo with leather (and 5k left over)
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    95 Supra turbo with targa

    Both like new, very low mileage, both manual
    Some autocross/track time, mostly sunny day cruising

    Kinda leaning towards the Supra, but I know it wouldn't be as much fun on the track
     
  2. shiba

    shiba Active Member

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    Supra, the rotary will leave you with more problems than joy.
     
  3. Silver 93 Supra

    Silver 93 Supra Social Liberal, Fiscal Conservative

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    Supra, but I may be a bit biased. Rx-7 will be more of a headache.
     
  4. c0ldf1ame

    c0ldf1ame New Member

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    rx7, supra is starting to look dated, plus i feel the rx7 has a better chassis
     
  5. dguy

    dguy She smells like angels ought to smell.

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    Rx7 for tracking, Supra for cruising. Depends on which you want more.
     
  6. deusexaethera

    deusexaethera OT Supporter

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    Get the RX-7 and use the money to get the engine rebuilt with stronger parts. Ceramic apex seals are supposed to make a big difference.

    Find out if there's a way to make the oil injectors run a little rich to make sure the engine is always properly lubed, and make sure the turbo's boost control system is in PERFECT shape, and you should be good.
     
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    RX-7

    Buy a well cared for example... do the reliability mods (cooling/new vacuum hoses/etc) and you should be good. Drive it hard... the way its meant to be driven and it should be fairly reliable.
     
  8. nainline6ftw

    nainline6ftw Winter is coming

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    They're both getting old. Just make sure you have lot of money to dump into maintenance immediately after buying the car (especially the mazda).
     
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    RX-7.
    Supra felt like a boat.
     
  10. PanzerAce

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    RX-7, use the extra money to do some engine reliability work.
     
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    RX7

    Supras are played out and short of the engine are an inferior car.
     
  12. $lacker

    $lacker FD/Dental/Canadian/Cage Crews OT Supporter

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    This is what I was thinking

    I think I'll probably end up with a low-mileage (20-30k) RHD RX-7
    The only thing making the choice difficult really is my total lack of experience with a rotary. I can afford to have someone else fix it when it breaks, but I generally do all that stuff myself (and I like it that way)
     
  13. triXx

    triXx Im the crack being smoked by your dealer

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    ive had 2 down here in FL, a GXL bone stock from 88 with 30k and 2,000$ to buy, and my daily, 88 10th anniversary, built, ported, boosted, and exptremlly fun at 410+whp. only thing i miss is the AC.

    Supra, i have friends who go thru them like water and i like to mess with them because they keep saying my rotary will blow, i rev em, i boost em, and they keep running. ceramic seals are great, but the new super seals are supposedly "unbreakable" havnt tried them yet.
     
  14. dguy

    dguy She smells like angels ought to smell.

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    Fuck man, you need to stop giving advice on platforms you have no experience in.
     
  15. dguy

    dguy She smells like angels ought to smell.

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    Buy a well cared for Rx7 and have a 3k to put into it straight away. If it was a US FD I would say that you should replace the wiring harness as one of your first steps of preventative maintenance as well as going with silicone vacuum lines. Since you're buying a newer model though you'll already have silicone vacuum lines as well as the nicer 16bit ECU and 'black box' for the vacuum system.
     
  16. $lacker

    $lacker FD/Dental/Canadian/Cage Crews OT Supporter

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    Shit, misunderstanding I think
    When I said "Low mileage (20-30k)", I meant that it would have 20-30000 km on it. Not that I would be spending $20-30k
    I'll probably have to get a 94 or 95 since you can't import anything from overseas newer than 15 years old
     
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    Why import one? There are plenty already in North America anyways....
     
  18. $lacker

    $lacker FD/Dental/Canadian/Cage Crews OT Supporter

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    Mostly rusty shitboxes
    I'm in northeastern Canada :rofl:
    I literally couldn't buy one here for any price... so my options are to get one shipped from central Canada for $2k, or imported from Japan for $5k
    Japan is the better option when it comes down to it... it would be different if I were in the US
     
  19. deusexaethera

    deusexaethera OT Supporter

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    Okay, correct me then.
     
  20. PanzerAce

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    that blows :o

    Yah, I'm used to being able to find 1950s and 60s cars that have been sitting in car ports for the past 20 years, and all they need is one or two rust spots ground off, and a fresh coat of paint :rofl:
     
  21. dguy

    dguy She smells like angels ought to smell.

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    First, oem steel is just fine if the car is properly tuned, the fact is that rotaries die when they detonate 95% of the time. Theres no way around this as the exposed material of the apex and side seals cannot be made thick enough to offer enough protection against the violent increase in combustion pressure due to preignition and detonation.

    Second, the issues with lubrication of the friction surfaces that are affected by oil injection isn't that there isn't enough oil, its that the entire oil injection setup on an Rx7 has always been a bandaid and is down right awful. If you were to take apart a well cared for engine you'd find a very nice clean spot in the center of every rotor tip where sump oil has globbed on however there will be a mass of black much everywhere else, and these are on well taken care of engines. This is because of the fact that there is very little pressure (Delta P) between the pressure and nozzle side of the oil injector, sump oil is contaminated, gross, overly thick to disperse, and just plain doesn't burn well.

    Premixing is always going to be superior, and at the very least change over to a remote reservoir so as to supply TCW3 to the injectors.
     
  22. dguy

    dguy She smells like angels ought to smell.

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    That sucks, you'll definitely want to replace the harness and vacuum lines then. The 16bit ecu and black box is pretty excellent, I got to play with one a few years back, it made life a whole lot easier when working on an FD.

    By the way, I own a '93 sporting an Autronic SM4 that I've adapted to the stock wiring harness, another option you may want to think about.
     
  23. $lacker

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    What are the main benefits of running the updated ECU and black box?
    Sounds like it would be a big job to replace the entire harness, no?
     
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    I'll take the FD with a blown wankel, then drop an LS6 into it.
     
  25. LS1S13

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    RX7 with LSx swap
     

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