A&P lightroom/photoshop question

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  1. Jcolman

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    Whenever I switch from Lightroom to PS, I get a message saying "embedded profile mismatch" that goes on to tell me that my "embedded color doesn't match the current RGB working space". My embedded profile is "ProPhoto RGB" and the working space is "sRGB IECG1996-2.1" I have a choice of using the embedded profiles, discarding it or converting it.

    What settings should I be using and how do I correct this?
     
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    decide on a color space, and set both programs to it.
     
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    How do I do this? edit: NM. I went into profiles and found most of the answers. PS doesn't give me the same options as Lightroom however. :dunno:

    I can use either colorsync workflow, color management off or several other choices that don't seem to be what I need.
     
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  4. mojito

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    you can't change LR
     
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    for most uses converting would be the best choice, unless you plan to work in ProPhotoRGB and convert everything that leaves PS to sRGB
     
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    I shoot in Adobe and leave everything in Adobe.

    If I export for web then I export to sRGB.
     
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    Mine says I can chose ProPhoto, Adobe or sRGB. :dunno: LR recommends ProPhoto so I've left it there.
     
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    I think that's what I'm going to do. My prints look fine when printing from LR and I usually don't do much work in PS right now.
     
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    If you shoot JPEG and print at labs or post to the web, use sRGB.

    If you shoot raw, set your converter to ProPhotoRGB. Your camera's sensor can do more colors than AdobeRGB.

    Never up-convert to a larger color space. ProPhotoRGB is larger than AdobeRGB which is larger than sRGB.
     
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    R U serial?

    You can't change lightroom's colorspace?

    I hate that fucking program.
     
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    not that I know of. But it doesn't matter really, prophoto is :bowdown: and you export or print from it, you can't screw up color management in it unless you export/print wrong.
     
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    don't get me wrong, I use prophoto exclusively. But my work goes to print 99% of the time. The only stuff that goes to web is what I post here...

    But if I worked in the web, and wanted to use sRBG, i'd have hoped that lightroom would do that seemlessly for me.

    Bridge can.
     
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    You should always use sRGB when you're exporting for the web. If you don't your photos can look muddy/washed out/dull depending on who views them.

    BTW, you can convert to whatever color space you want when you export a photo in Lightroom.

    [​IMG]
     
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    doesn't matter what it uses really, as you can't get it our of LR without telling it what you want it to be.
     
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    LR was specifically made to ease color management, not confuse it like PS does for beginners.
     
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    Exactly. It uses ProPhoto RGB internally because that's the biggest color space, and there's no chance of data loss. Then on export they give you the choice if you want to convert to a smaller color space.
     
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    so pretty much all of you guys use prophoto then? I just left everything as srgb cause I didn't want to mess around.
     
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    So after reading all your comments I've learned that ProPhoto is the best for working in Lightroom. sRGB is best for exporting to web sites. What I still don't know is what colorspace should I be working in when I have to touch up a picture in Photoshop? Also, after I'm done with the picture and I want to bring it back into LR or print it, should I leave the colorspace alone??

    If it helps I shoot only in RAW
     
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    If you shoot raw you should always use ProPhoto RGB. Your cameras sensor can do more colors than even Adobe RGB.

    If you're printing, you should find out what color space your photo lab asks for and use that. For web, always use sRGB.

    In short, use the biggest color space available when editing, and then when exporting set your color space appropriately. Of course if you're shooting JPEG most cameras only allow Adobe RGB or sRGB, so up-converting to ProPhoto RGB gains you nothing.
     
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    My Lightroom is set to ProPhoto. I now do all my own printing for the most part on a Canon i9900. My question was "what are my best choices when working in PS since ProPhoto is not an option and what is a "bigger" colorspace...sRGB, Adobe, big box of colored pencils??" :dunno:
     
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    ProPhoto RGB should be an option in PS under Edit -> Color Settings.

    [​IMG]

    And ProPhoto RGB is bigger than Adobe RGB which is bigger than sRGB.
     
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    It's not in my version of PS (v.7.0) I've got all the ones listed except for ProPhoto. Is there a way I can import it into PS???
     

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