A&P Lens recommendation

Discussion in 'Lifestyle' started by phoenixTX, Apr 10, 2008.

  1. phoenixTX

    phoenixTX New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2004
    Messages:
    3,613
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Dallas and OKC
    Yeah, I know these threads come up from the newbies all the time, but I'll try to provide enough info so that you guys can help with some decent advice.

    Canon 30D user and in need of a decent zoom lens. Current longest zoom is the Canon 28-135 IS.

    My primary need is to shoot my daughter's indoor cheerleading competitions. This was discussed in this thread: http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=3672027 as I am shooting in a very similar environment to what Xenon Supra described. I need something that will shoot decent in moderately low light and approx 150-200mm zoom. I would obviously like to have it as a zoom lens I can carry for general purposes as well.

    My budget is less than $1000 ... preferably $700-800.

    I'm considering the 70-200 f/4 L, but not sure if the f/4 is going to be enough. It would be an improvement over the f/5.6 that I'm using on the long end of the 28-135 currently. Obviously IQ would be dramatically improved as well.

    Another option is the Sigma 50-150 f/2.8 or the Sigma 70-200 f/2.8. Both run about $750. Downside on the 200mm is the weight as tripods are usually not allowed in these competitions and carrying around that lens all day would probably get old after a while. The 150mm would make a great carry lens, but I'm not sure on the reach ... it would be really nice to have the extra 50mm.

    Should I save $200 and go with the Canon L and hope that f/4 is fast enough? Or should a go with one of the Sigma's to get the f/2.8?

    Any other lenses I need to look at in this range (pricewise and focal length)?
     
  2. ///Mik3

    ///Mik3 New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2008
    Messages:
    911
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    All Over California
    PEDOPHILE ALERT!


    :noes:
     
  3. Traitor

    Traitor New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2006
    Messages:
    5,548
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Science Crew
    f/4 is not going to cover it, but then again I've never shot a sporting event :dunno:
     
  4. Bloke

    Bloke Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2003
    Messages:
    26,775
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Pekin, IL
    with a crop sensor wouldnt say a 135mm f2 be good enough for most?
     
  5. OneTwo

    OneTwo me>you OT Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2004
    Messages:
    30,111
    Likes Received:
    91
    70-200L f/2.8

    just buy it now, you'll never be happy without it.
     
  6. ace3

    ace3 mouthify my wang.

    Joined:
    May 4, 2001
    Messages:
    122,602
    Likes Received:
    7
    Location:
    Omaha NebrASSka Posts: 15
    so he's going to have to carry it around -all- the time if he wants to not be depressed and sad?

    damn, that's an impressive lens! :big grin:
     
  7. OneTwo

    OneTwo me>you OT Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2004
    Messages:
    30,111
    Likes Received:
    91
    :werd:

    They should give out 70-200L f/2.8's at funerals to the close family to make them feel better.
     
    Last edited: Apr 10, 2008
  8. tetsuo

    tetsuo And shepherds we shall be...

    Joined:
    May 6, 2004
    Messages:
    9,444
    Likes Received:
    0
    i've seen a few copies of the 70-200 2.8 non is going for less than a grand, and on fm i saw one the other day for $600 only.
     
  9. aCab

    aCab New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2007
    Messages:
    18,292
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Chicaaago
    200mm f/2.8 prime. Pretty inexpensive for what it is.
     
  10. porsch1909

    porsch1909 OT Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2005
    Messages:
    30,072
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Scotland
    Will this 200mm f/2.8 lense fit onto a 350D?
     
  11. xenon supra

    xenon supra OT Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2005
    Messages:
    33,675
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    San Diego, CA
    i
    I agree, after shooting in a very similar environment I think youll want the 70-200 f/2.8


    maybe try and find an older/ cheaper one if the L is too expensive if there is one. ( I don't know much about canon gear)
     
  12. OneTwo

    OneTwo me>you OT Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2004
    Messages:
    30,111
    Likes Received:
    91
    yes
     
  13. phoenixTX

    phoenixTX New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2004
    Messages:
    3,613
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Dallas and OKC
    135mm doesn't get me close enough now ... need at least 150mm, but I'd be better off with 200mm
     
  14. phoenixTX

    phoenixTX New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2004
    Messages:
    3,613
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Dallas and OKC
    I guess if I can find a used 70-200 f/2.8 L for less than a grand, I might go for it.

    So the Sigma 2.8's aren't a viable option? Canon L or nothing?
     
  15. porsch1909

    porsch1909 OT Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2005
    Messages:
    30,072
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Scotland

    Is this the sigma lense?
     
  16. OneTwo

    OneTwo me>you OT Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2004
    Messages:
    30,111
    Likes Received:
    91

    sigman, cannon, tamron..etc should fit on any cannon DSLR camera(that includes your 350D)
     
  17. porsch1909

    porsch1909 OT Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2005
    Messages:
    30,072
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Scotland

    I'm looking for a good new lense which is slightly cheaper. All I have is the standard lense that came with it and a 75-300 1:4-5.6 which I use from my 35mm SLR.

    I think a better lense will make a big difference :)

    There isn't much point in me giving a price range because things are priced differently in the UK and US.
     
  18. aCab

    aCab New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2007
    Messages:
    18,292
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Chicaaago
    I meant to say 200mm f/2.8 L - The Canon L series one.
     
  19. OneTwo

    OneTwo me>you OT Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2004
    Messages:
    30,111
    Likes Received:
    91

    pretty sure you would be happy with the Sigma.

    but they are ~800 compared to the ~1100 of the cannon L.

    you get better IQ, better build quality, USM..etc
     
  20. phoenixTX

    phoenixTX New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2004
    Messages:
    3,613
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Dallas and OKC
    I think I may have found my answer, but wanted to run this by you guys...

    70-200 f/2.8L ~$1150 from most retailers with standard 1 year Canon warranty.
    70-200 f/2.8L ~$920 - USA model, refurb by Canon USA, 90 day warranty.

    Would you save a couple hundred bucks and buy the refurb? At least it's in my price range and only $100-150 more than I was looking at spending on the Sigma.

    Also tried out a Tamron 70-200 f/2.8 side by side with the Canon f/2.8 at Wolf. If Tamron would have put some sort of USM/HSM focusing, that thing would be a huge hit, especially at <$700 ... but the slow focusing really hurts. Of course that was 'slow' compared to the Canon L lens I just had on my camera :noes: If I would have just tried it without the Canon L comparison, I might have bought it. Wolf is only wanting $699 for the Tamron, which is the same price as online.
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2008
  21. wizeguy4

    wizeguy4 New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2002
    Messages:
    2,454
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Allentown, PA
    I have been giving a lot of thought on this lens as well. Just wondering if the IS model would give me a big improvement or no?
     
  22. Sympathy

    Sympathy OT Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2006
    Messages:
    31,016
    Likes Received:
    80
    :rofl:
     

Share This Page