A&P Lens Advice Please....$2000-2500 to spend

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  1. NYM3

    NYM3 Is this teal life or is it....fanta-sea?

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    So I have a little bit of money to spend(its a gift actually from someone who wants me to pursue my hobby a little further)...so saving the money until I'm a better photographer isn't really an option....

    What I currently have.

    Canon 40D w/ grip
    24-105 f4 L IS (which I'd like to get rid of, and probably will, for a 24-70..so assume the 24-70)
    430ex
    Software - LR 2 and CS3

    Most of what I enjoy shooting is people. I have done one event for a friend and have another lined up. So I would like to eventually pursue this is a small side job type thing doing events, portraits, club/nightlife etc...

    I figure I'll stick with the 40D for a while and upgrade the body in a year to a FF.

    I'm looking at
    10-22 EFS (id have to get rid of this if I go FF)
    16-35 2.8
    50 1.4
    70-200 2.8
    580EX?
    Triggers?

    So what would you guys recommend as my next purchase(s)?

    Thanks! :bigthumb:

    IBnothingyousuckanyway :hs:

    here's the gf's ass for your troubles and reference of my level of suck :mamoru:
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  2. Jbrown

    Jbrown OT Supporter

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    Yeah def trade the 24-105 for a 24-70. OR an even better lens if you plan to keep. 40D, is the 17-55 2.8 IS

    If you don't have a flash at all I'd definetly invest in one for on-camera. I wouldn't go with a 580ex II IMO, maybe something like 550ex, then some off-camera flash stuff. CyberSync triggers, etc. Alien bees?

    Since you wont to shoot people, I say:
    Off-camera setup, either a couple hot shoe flashes, triggers, stands, brellas, softboxes
    Alien Bee setup if you want something very nice but affordable



    You can do a lot with $2k...
     
  3. NYM3

    NYM3 Is this teal life or is it....fanta-sea?

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    Thank you sir...i have a 430ex right now. 550 is probably a good idea and I dont mind getting things used to save money.
    I dont know much about off camera stuff other than flashes...if you have any more info/links to any good starter kits or packages that would be a big help.

    I will get the 24-70 for sure, I wanted to stay away from EF-S lenses if possible as I'd hate to go through the hassle of swapping again when I go FF. :hs:
     
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    I completely lost my train of thought. What was the question again?
     
  5. Jbrown

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    Oh if you have a 430ex you are covered for on-camera flash.

    Generally speaking, you wont use on-camera much anyways when doing a real shoot where you have time, but there is always the chance you wont have time/room to setup off-camera stuff.

    You can get a couple 550ex, or older Nikon flashes for around $100 each. Then you need transmitter/receivers to fire them (CyberSyncs)

    OR you can go with monolight kit, that has A LOT more power and versatility, but requires an outlet (or battery pack)

    You can find all kinds of this stuff on here

    http://www.alienbees.com/


    They have Monolights, CyberSyncs, Vagabond (battery pack) Soft Boxes, etc etc



    Also MPEX has good beginner strobist kits

    http://www.mpex.com/page.htm?PG=Strobist Kits
    Have fun!
     
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  7. NYM3

    NYM3 Is this teal life or is it....fanta-sea?

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    Nikon or Canon? :mamoru:

    Thanks :bowdown:

    Gracias....the benefits of dating a 20 yr old :naughty: (where's the Pedobear smiley)
     
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  9. NYM3

    NYM3 Is this teal life or is it....fanta-sea?

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    excellent work sir!!!! :bigthumb:
     
  10. Skaughtto

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    Sell the 40D and the 24-105 and see if you can collect some of the following used on craigslist or forums:

    Canon 5D MK1 ~ $1100
    - Full frame kicks booty and makes your lenses more useful. The 24-70 is SO much better on a full sensor, 24mm is actually wide.

    24-70mm 2.8 ~$900
    - Very versatile lens.

    50mm 1.4 ~ $300
    - Perfect for low light and bokeh.

    85mm 1.8 ~ $320
    - Great for head shots and bokeh.

    135mm f2 ~ $900
    - Sharpest lens I've ever used, very awesome.

    200mm f2.8 ~ $600
    - Gives you the 2.8 without the big white lens and a big hole in your bank account.


    Fast lenses are the way to go for people and events. The 430ex will be good for now but eventually you may want the 580 and a cord to go off camera. Good luck!
     
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    There is no need for a killer lens setup like that until he has better lighting...


    But the 5D upgrade idea isn't bad either...
     
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    Quality booty pics don't come cheap. :moon:

    Canon 5D + 24-70 + 50 1.4 would be a great setup. Just get a 5in1 reflector/diffuser if you want some better lighting.
     
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    24-70 + 50 1.4 is ok, but he doesn't need a 200, 135, 85 etc, without lighting properly.
     
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    don't lie. Everyone needs the 135mm f2. Even Nikon guys. It's so pretty.

    You can do some AWESOME stuff with natural light and fast primes.
     
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    For $2500 and shooting people you can pickup a 70-200 f2.8 IS and a 135L. Wait till the rebates come out on Monday though, the 2.8 IS is supposedly going to be $200 off.

    580exII would be a nice option too.
     
  16. NYM3

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    I will keep my eye out for the 5D and 24-70 upgrade for sure and I will do that in time.

    I liked using my cheapo 50 1.8...so I'm all for the primes.

    So would I be better with

    24-70
    50 1.4
    135 2

    or better with a

    24-70
    70-200 2.8IS

    I dont think i'd need more range than the 135 for now...especially on the crop.
     
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    Personally I'd go with the 135L over the 70-200. That's what I did. The 135L is really special. It's pretty long on the crop though.

    I had the Canon 50 1.4 and didn't think it was that great. It's soft wide open and the AF isnt great (it's not true ring USM but rather has a micro USM motor). I'd look into the Sigma 50mm 1.4, it's a little more expensive but is supposed to be great.

    The 50mm focal length would be great on your crop for portraits.
     
  18. NYM3

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    Thanks!

    85 1.8 better than the 50?
     
  19. isaac86hatch

    isaac86hatch This thread sucks

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    Everyone should own the 70-200 f2.8L IS ... even Nikon people.
     
  20. ace3

    ace3 mouthify my wang.

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    10-22, 70-200, lights, triggers.
     
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    The Canon 85 1.8 is much better than the Canon 50 1.4. Really fast focus, sharp, and pretty nice bokeh.
     
  22. Jbrown

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    I just put down money for new 135L :o

    Mutombo, sorry bro, saw a good deal on FM after we talked, you'll have no problems selling yours ;)
     
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    No worries. Have fun with it.
     
  24. Keegan

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    It's build quality is way better than the 50 1.8. It'll be a bit longer (obviously) than the 50, so it depends where you shoot etc. It's also more expensive...
     
  25. tetsuo

    tetsuo And shepherds we shall be...

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    first thing i would do is decide if you are going full frame soon or not. if you are going to keep your 40d, then i would get rid of the 24-105, trade it for a 17-55 + a little cash. then i would get the 70-200 2.8 is, either a 50 1.4 or a 85 1.8, then get another manual flash, couple of triggers, stands, umbrellas, etc to have a off-camera flash setup.
     

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