MIL Leadership thread - no homo

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  1. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    I was recently positionally promoted. I now run the largest shop in my unit.

    Any advice from you guys on leadership?
     
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    eu4ia Active Member

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    Make everyone work from the front leaning rest position.
     
  3. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    Oh no you didnt...
     
  4. tan koi

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    any nco worth their salt will spend about 60 days sitting back and watching their underlings before making drastic changes in how their section/platoon/etc works. in the meantime, find ways to help and establish yourself before making changes.

    this too, have anyone who is a smartass endure a great smoking, fucked-up supervisors are included
     
  5. Ozner

    Ozner Offical TSL OP Leghumper

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    Read a quick book on leadership. Personally I like how servant leadership works.
     
  6. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    I've been in the shop now for two years. I think I will sit back and see how the guys react to the change.

    I expect some passive resistance at first.
     
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    don't suddenly change shit, introduce it slowly

    you probably already know who you can leave alone to do shit and who you need to finger in the butthole
     
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    barter with other shop leaders...
     
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    MrRyan Gary Johnson 2016 OT Supporter

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    yell and scream all the time
     
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    MrRyan Gary Johnson 2016 OT Supporter

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    even when making coffee.
     
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    MrRyan Gary Johnson 2016 OT Supporter

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    You could be like the Wolverine of the AF
     
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    MrRyan Gary Johnson 2016 OT Supporter

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    I would post 4x what could of been done in 1..
    60 days is kinda long esp if you have already been there..
    Ive seen TSgts fired from there job who have been t in it less than that..
    does the shop have major probs??

    How many peeps and what do you do?
     
  14. brackac

    brackac Fuck all of this. OT Supporter

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    Five rules.

    1. Work harder than your troops
    2. Never ask them to do something you wouldn't
    3. Be at work before your troops and leave after.
    4. Never complain in front of your troops
    5. Never lie, exaggerate, or mislead. Integrity is the most important part of being a good leader.
     
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    MrRyan Gary Johnson 2016 OT Supporter

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    Oooh that's a good point: When conducting written counseling with your subordinates - make sure that you don't make yourself look like an idiot.
     
  16. MrRyan

    MrRyan Gary Johnson 2016 OT Supporter

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    While I agree with points 1, 2 & 3 - I must emphasize that you should never take on their workload just because you can do their job better and quicker. Make them do their job and ensure that they're properly trained and resourced.

    ...and read this:

    http://hbr.org/product/management-time-who-s-got-the-monkey/an/99609-PDF-ENG
     
  17. brackac

    brackac Fuck all of this. OT Supporter

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    You completely missed the point. Working harder than your subordinates does not mean doing their work.
     
  18. MrRyan

    MrRyan Gary Johnson 2016 OT Supporter

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    I did not miss your point Chief. It was you Torretto, that missed MY point. :hsugh:
     
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    brackac Fuck all of this. OT Supporter

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    Bullshit asshole, no one likes the tuna here.
     
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    MrRyan Gary Johnson 2016 OT Supporter

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    ooh...does it have chunks of pickle and dolphin? :eek5:
     
  21. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    The shop is shift work. I will be over both shifts.

    No one is really a problem. There is one guy who likes to order people around and has no tact. The problem is that the shop is all SSgts and retired military contractors - about 13 total. All competent adults who don't need to be ordered around. I think I will have to work with him to build up his people skills. He does nothing wrong, just in the wrong way. Customers are put off by him.

    We have no pipeliners or anyone below E5, nor will we get any, so kid drama is nonexistent.
     
  22. brackac

    brackac Fuck all of this. OT Supporter

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    I miss working with soldiers.
     
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    Rejoice in the fact that you have 17,650lbs of steel and carbon fiber between your legs.
     
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    What ever your leadership style is, make sure it's unwavering. I've seen too many leaders get caught up into favoritism, and scandals. Just be ethical, and morally right, and go by the book.
     
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    E6 (at least in the army) = the point where NCOs start getting big heads. Whip out the paper and pen dude.
     

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