Discussion in 'OT Bar' started by adrenalin112, Jan 9, 2009.
people just posture up once you throw that leg up for the triangle.
pretty weak move if you ask me
Well that settles it.
does not make to much sense
itll work sweet if you are rolling with that guy and he knows you are doing an instructional.
The samba looks easier to learn.
Meh i do this a lot, good to have on back up if you cant get the kimura on, or the kimura sweep. I have nailed it a few times. Plays well into my guard game
But then again im not Francas Training partner, so don't take my word for it.
I fucking hate Mike Swick. I don't think it would work that great if the opponent was actually defending it. As soon he swings that leg over it's not really locking the guy in guard at all. I do love setting up a kimura to get mount or transition or something else, but I really don't see that move working out to many times.
PS Is that how Americans pronounce that word? Jesus Christ I think asian accents sound better.
I don't know why you all hate on that set up so much.
Looks pretty solid to me. Only difference I would use is that when I throw the leg over instead of grabbing with my hand first I would cross at the ankles and pinch my knees together letting me have another second or 2 to grab my shin.
I just feel the way he sets it up it wouldn't work. I could see what you would do would work better because when he throws his leg over his guard is gonna go from tight to loose. Anyone who has been doing it long enough is going to feel that instantly. Plus if they can guess what he's going for they should be able to defend it even if he throws you off with a kimura.
Getting that Over the shoulder guard (i guess that would be the best name) is purely transitional but you can get ALOT of pressure there and actually finish aswell. It takes alot of practice getting your legs used to holding that kinda pressure there.
Well that's pretty much the most important part of a triangle is getting that leg tight around the back of their neck leaving no room. When he lets go and breaks his guard, if you were looking for a chance to posture out, there would be no better opportunity.
Maybe it was just the way he was demonstrating it, but it just seemed way to slow to me. I don't have any doubts it can work, but with someone who's trying to actively defend/sweep/mount, it's a whole different game. It looks like it takes a lot of time and when someones sweaty, tired, it's gonna be harder to pull off.
Thats without a doubt.
The big part of making that work would be getting the leg that isn't across his neck in place in time to close the over shoulder guard.