GUN Kalashnikovs replace the sword between the teeth

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  1. TL1000RSquid

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    Kalashnikovs replace the sword between the teeth
    EDWARD HARRIS IN NAIROBI

    YO HO HO and an RPG - maritime authorities across the world are urging international military intervention against a recent upsurge in piracy by gangs who use modern weapons such as rocket-propelled grenades and Kalashnikovs - and brutal tactics.

    While the causes of piracy are little changed from the 17th and 18th centuries, the tactics have certainly evolved, says Cyrus Mody, a senior analyst at the International Maritime Bureau, which tracks pirate attacks.

    "Instead of swinging from ropes, now it's boarding vessels with automatic weapons," Mr Mody says.

    Africa's poverty makes piracy attractive and weak governments have few resources to police the land, much less territorial waters stretching a dozen or more miles from the shore.

    Latter-day pirates often travel in open skiffs with outboard engines, sometimes enjoying a tow out to the sea from a mother ship. They have satellite navigation and communications equipment, heavy weapons and knowledge of local waters.

    Pirate attacks have risen drastically in Somalia, according to International Maritime Bureau figures for the first nine months of 2007, with 26 reported cases, up from eight during the first nine months of last year.

    The country has one of Africa's weakest governments and is awash with weapons.

    Nigeria has had 26 attacks so far this year, compared with nine previously, the bureau said.

    Pirate attacks worldwide shot up 14 per cent in the first nine months of 2007 to 198 compared with 174 in the same period in 2006, the bureau said, with 15 vessels hijacked, 63 crew kidnapped and three killed.

    Indonesia remained the world's worst piracy hot-spot, with 37 attacks in the first nine months of 2007 - but there were 40 in the same period a year earlier, the bureau said.

    Noel Choong, head of the bureau's piracy reporting centre in Kuala Lumpur, welcomed recent US navy action against pirates in African waters he says would otherwise be unpoliced.

    "There is no law there. But if you allow foreign navies to patrol the area, it will be a major deterrent," Mr Choong said.

    Responding to a distress call this week, US military personnel boarded a North Korean-flagged vessels to help crew members injured as they fought pirates to regain control of the ship.

    In 2005 Captain Sellathurai Mahalingam and his crew were attacked as their ship was taking 850 tonnes of charity rice from Mombasa, Kenya, to to Somalia's war-ruined capital, Mogadishu, when 17 pirates in three open skiffs, carrying pistols, rocket-propelled grenades and Kalashnikov assault rifles, boarded about 50 miles from the Somali coast.

    The pirates pulled alongside, put their ladder up to the ship and clambered aboard, said Capt Mahalingham, 60.

    "They climbed on board tired and hungry," he said. "After they threatened us, they went to the kitchen and ate all our food."

    After long negotiation the hijacking ended, but Capt Mahalingam said: "It was a traumatic experience. These pirates, I think what they're doing is terrible."

    This article: http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1751642007

    Last updated: 03-Nov-07
     
  2. Dr. Fuckface

    Dr. Fuckface Wheelguns: when it absolutely, positively has to g

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    "Sword between the teeth" Sword. :rolleyes: they could've at least gotten it right and said, "cutlass".
     
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    If I had to captain a ship through those kinds of waters I'd be armed to the fucking teeth.
     
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    Yeah I'd want something belt fed or maybe a barrett to take out their motors.
     
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    I'd want several types, the belt fed machine guns are nice for when they get close but those fuckers tend to carry RPGs too. I'd rather have a nice 3" or 5" deck gun to ward them off with than have to deal with them at ranges they could fire back with.

    Just imagine if you were carrying some sort of highly explosive cargo, one RPG could be the end.
     
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    Or you could call for help form a US Navy ship that fire at the pirates tied up alongside your ship.

     
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    eh, gotta be careful with stuff like that. it's all fine and good in international waters, i suppose (though I wonder what maritime law is concerning weapons?), but once you're in a port of call, you can get into big, big trouble. At the very least, though, I'd have some claymores installed along key passageways and camoflaged into the structure of the ship.

    maybe an electrified gunwhale? i bet that would make boarding a difficult prospect.
     
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    They won't always be there, in fact, you can usually bet that they won't.

    It'd really depend on where you were docking. If you're doing business up and down the coast of Africa the law is whatever the guy with the biggest guns says it is (short of South Africa) and even if there were laws, they'd ignore them for the sake of keeping solid and reputable shipping companies around.

    Countries tend to think for their own self interests and if that means the people moving goods in their waters need to have heavy weaponry for protection then they'll tend to just go along with it.

    It wouldn't hurt to ask some government officials obviously and if you were moving in and out of US ports well you wouldn't really have to worry about pirating.
     
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    There was a show on (Discovery?) a couple of weeks ago about modern pirates discussing several recent events and methods for deterrent. One of the coolest things (used by the cruise ship off of Somalia last year) is a focused beam of piercing noise. That's what wound up driving the pirates off, although the dood operating the device was shot in the shoulder or something. They need to put a little camera on there boresighted to the sound beam and have it remote-controlled from the bridge. :o
     
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    Don't know if its typical for customs officals to inspect noncargo area of ships or not but if it were my ship I'd setup some sort of hidden storage area for a few weapons. If your on a decently sized ship most of the pirates are on little speed boats could probably toss a couple frag grenades when they pull up to board and not do much to your own ship other then chip the paint.
     
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    Bring your own rifle charter cruise to africa could be fun, pirates pull up to cruise ship 300 guys on deck start shooting at them :eek3:
     
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    It's called the LRAD and it's good if they're still at range (it can make you feel like you're on fire), but once they get close I'd rather have some actual firearms.
     
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    Looks like a good idea for a startup business. If they kick Blackwater out of Iraq they can make money running protection for ships.
     
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    I'm surprised that Blackwater doesn't just hire itself out as a full-scale private army.
     
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    :rofl: The latest in dangerous game hunting! :rofl:
     
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    10 grand a cabin, sell ammo on board at inflated rates, could probably make money, now to find out what it costs to charter a ship :o
     
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    Higher insurance rates on the charter could probably be offset by subsidies from shipping companies. :o
     
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    Passengers have to sign the disclaimer before boarding were not responsible for death or bodily harm.
     
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    Yah, there would have to be some rules, like

    1) The BGs have to take the first shot so everything is "self-defense."
    2) Anyone killed will have the charter fee refunded to their family.
    3) Extra points for BGs holding RPGs
    4) $1000 bonus prize to anyone who fires a shot resulting in secondaries.
    5) ???
    6) Profit
     
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    What happens if you've got some badass on board with a bunch of explosive rounds and he just tears the ship apart?
     
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    Huh? You mean if he tears the pirate ship apart? Free beers for him that night.
     
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    I meant the pirate ship, yes. Free beers eh? That's one helluva prize.

    Are you only going to allow up to .50BMG or are you going to allow explosives and artillery-like weaponry?
     
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    I'd say limit the bring your own to regular small arms, have larger stuff available for rent.
     
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    Define 'larger'
     
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    20mm gatling.
     

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