Just bought some whey for the first time.

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  1. andrey

    andrey New Member

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    Went with "Optimum 100% Whey Gold Standard Chocolate" http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/whey.html

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    I weight 205 lb, 6' 4''. I usually eat meat, chicken, or fish for dinner. In the morning I either eat oatmeal, or cooked cottage cheese/sour cream patties.

    Anyway, when do you guys recommend I take this stuff (pre or post workout) and how much?

    Any help or a point in the right direction is appreciated. :wavey:
     
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    have a little mid-morning if you dont have a decent protein intake before lunch,.. and do 40ish grams post-w/o
     
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    y1997 Made in the U.S.S.R.

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    1-2 scoops in the morning, and 2 scoops right after workout.
     
  4. andrey

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    Pardon my ignorance, but how much is a scoop?
     
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    el es dee ...through a cloud of chalk and the midst of pain.

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    24g...right on the bottle, it comes with a scooper.

    also change your user text or your ass will be gone pretty quick
     
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    Thanks for the info.

    I changed it to this when I bought Members Services. I plan to renew soon.
     
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    I posed this same question on the BB forums, and a lot of people are recommending pre workout.

    In terms of pre-workout vs post, what's the better choice?
     
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    y1997 Made in the U.S.S.R.

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    There are many arguments in the world of nutrition, but a protein source post workout along with some carbs is often considered optimal.
     
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    Can protein be taken alone (w/ water)? Or will I need to create an insulin spike (similar to creatine use)?
     
  10. nah its ok to take with water.


    anyone got any opinion on walmart whey?
     
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    y1997 Made in the U.S.S.R.

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    You need to create an insulin spike by consuming it with a good source of carbs (i.e. gatorade).
     
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    ugh:barf: god wtf is that?

    Post workout. Protein always PWO. Just think about it. That's like asking if you should drink water after running. We're not robots; we can't be charged up. You should still have energy from the previous solid meal before hitting the gym.
    For your size, at least 2 scoops. Then another normal meal soon after.
     
  13. jared_IRL

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    definitly post workout, with dextrose/maltodextrin to spike insulin.

    gatorade works too, but gatorade and chocolate don't mix well...

    I take 2 scoops protein, 50g malto/dextrose mixed, and 5g creatine in my PWO shake.

    about an hour after i'm done the shake I eat a good full meal.
     
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    :werd: i usually do 1-2 scoops WPI with a tablespoon or two of gatorade powder :yum:
     
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    Thank for all the advice guys. Again, I apologize for my naiveté but I have one more question.

    Can I use juices (orange, apple, etc.) with Whey to create the spike?

    I also read that Whey creates an insulin spike on its own...
     
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    Genghis.Tron New Member

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    Not really. Fructose (which is usually about 50% of the sugar found in fruits) doesn't produce an insulin spike. Don't worry too much about it though, that dextrose/maltodextrine bandwagon seems pretty useless.

    All you need to know :


     
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    What is the best-tasting whey protein (with water)? I ordered something online the other day, and it came with 2 free samples of whey. I just tried the one flavored like raspberry lemonade and it makes me wanna regurgitate. It's kinda chalky like, but I'm chokin it down just to get through it.

    I hate oatmeal..... with a passion.
     
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    No, you can't use the juice, and yes whey does create an insulin spike, but it's nowhere near enough to combat the catabolic state your body goes into after a workout.

    FWIW, in the article Andrew posted, at the end the author (whoever that may be..) states that keeping insulin up is beneficial. Which is exactly why you need the simple sugars...

    So i'm not sure why he thinks it's worthless... There are countless pieces of research that show just how beneficial spiking insulin immedietly post workout can be...
     
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    I have a scoop after every work out. If I don't eat something small wit it it sometimes upsets my tummy tho.
     
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    I have vanilla, mix it with extra water amd it doesn't taste as chalky to me.

    I used to hate oatmeal. Now I love it.:hsd: It was the texture that bothered me, so I got the instant kind and made it kinda thick...it's also really good with peanut butter and honey. That way I can chew it and it doesn't feel like...slime.
     
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    oh and for the english impaired

    you guys said to take it

    before working out, right?
     
  23. jared_IRL

    jared_IRL OT Supporter

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    I get 48g JUST in my post workout shake..

    Plus the CC at breakfast, can of tuna at lunch, steak/chicken/fish at dinner, and CC before bed...

    There's usually a few 'smaller' meals thrown in there that consist of some sort of protein (eggs, etc)....

    According to fitday, I'll be around 285g today if I eat my egg snack and chicken breast for dinner tonight like planned...
     
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    jared_IRL OT Supporter

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    umm.


    no.
     
  25. bear

    bear frankly rover i dont give a "woof

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    Some one please tell the point of an insulin spike after a workout.
     
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