GUN just back from the range - LEM or NO LEM

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  1. Orkin Yards

    Orkin Yards 5.9 Limited, have you driven one lately?

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    So I rented the Glock 23, HK Compact, and Sig

    Really was between the Glock and the HK and I really liked the feel of the HK better - however I wasn't able to shoot one with the LEM...

    Is there any way to decide between the two without having shot the LEM?

    I shot several shots DAO on this one, and definately liked the SA feel better...however I have no idea how the LEM feels -

    I plan to carry at somepoint, however I feel as though I could load and decock the non LEM to carry and then just pull and shoot with the first shot DA and then SA after - but some tell me LEM is better for CC

    any comments suggestions?
     
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    993kgt building an airplane whee

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    too many acronyms, you sound like a cop
     
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    Bigsnake OT Supporter

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    What is LEM?
     
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    Soybomb New Member

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    The lem trigger is 7.5-8.5 pounds. How do you find the glock trigger?

    I personally like a da first shot and sa 2nd shot but some people suggest anything but one consistent trigger pull is impossible to be proficient with. I think whatever you practice with will be fine
     
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    Bigsnake OT Supporter

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    What now?

    People are suggesting a consistent trigger pull is impossible to be proficient with, or anything other than a consistent trigger pull is impossible to be proficient with?

    I will not say DA/SA is impossible to be consistent with, but the same trigger pull everytime, I think, is a lot easier to get proficient with.
     
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    Soybomb New Member

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    The latter. If its not a consistent trigger pull you're a dead man. I think its a load of crap. Maybe if you're a trigger slapper it'll be harder but if you release the trigger to the reset point I don't see it being a problem. At least it isn't for me. If you're the TDA owner that goes to the range and never decocks I could see your first shot might be a flyer.
     
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    I just don't like the long trigger pull. It seems I don't like to keep the same trigger finger placement and hand set for the long pull vs. the short pull. It's probably worse for people with small hands.

    Was also reading about some class where they were shooting steel plates. He said all the DA/SA guy's were slower with the first shot than the rest, but their SA shots were all equal after that.

    I mean, it you practice a lot, then you'll get it just with anything. It's not hard to think about how different it is though. You have a longer trigger pull of ~9#s vs a shorter trigger pull of #5. Short, light trigger pull you have less room for error or trying to speed the pull up and jerking it. Of course I don't really like the SIG DAK from what I've felt of it. Sure, it's light, but that pull is long.
     
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    I dont think anyone with V3 HK uses DA. Condition 1 is where it's at.
     
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    Platinum_Thunder Reliability for life and liberty

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    That's why I ended up selling my Walther. DA/SA sucks cock and I will try my best to never own one again.
     
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    Platinum_Thunder Reliability for life and liberty

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    It needs to be about 5lbs though
     
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    Platinum_Thunder Reliability for life and liberty

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    HK just doesn't get it when it comes to guns
     
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    Gimik New Member

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    LEM comes with a 4# pull option.
     
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    if you do end up getting the LEM, theres a way to lighten the trigger by changing out 2 springs. it goes from the stock 8lbs (or whatever it is) to a little below 5 if i remember correctly.

    i personally have a V3 p2000, and i love it. i shoot both DA/SA, but i do like the SA better.

    heres a post on HKPRO about the spring change:

    http://hkpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40627&highlight=LEM+trigger
     
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    I got a S&W 915 that's DA/SA. I never shoot the thing. It's been reliable but I just don't like DA/SA. I don't plan on purchasing any gun with DA unless it's a revolver.
     
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    Platinum_Thunder Reliability for life and liberty

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    Orly? Link?
     
  16. Orkin Yards

    Orkin Yards 5.9 Limited, have you driven one lately?

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    what is the standard DA/SA USP trigger pull rating
     
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    i dont think its a factory option, if it is i havent heard about it. if you look at my first post in this thread, the link i posted is the mod that reduces pull to around 5lb's.
     
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    Dunno if it's a factory option though. But it's an option.
     
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    DA: Long gritty and shitty

    SA: Much better
     
  21. Orkin Yards

    Orkin Yards 5.9 Limited, have you driven one lately?

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    oh so helpful
     
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    DA is something like 12#, SA is 4# I believe.
     
  23. Orkin Yards

    Orkin Yards 5.9 Limited, have you driven one lately?

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    wow - so the LEM is significantly lighter than the DA
     

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