GUN Its been 10 years since England banned guns and ended the violence

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  1. TL1000RSquid

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    Oh wait, my bad gun violence has doubled :mamoru:

    http://timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2317307.ece

    Weapons sell for just £50 as suspects and victims grow ever younger
    Richard Ford, Home Correspondent and Philip Webster, Political Editor

    Senior police officers have been warning for several months that a growing number of teenagers in big cities are becoming involved in gun crime.

    The age of victims and suspects has fallen over the past three years as the availability of firearms in some cities has risen. Liverpool and Manchester are the cities where illegal guns are most readily available, with criminals claiming that some weapons are being smuggled from Ireland. Sawn-off shotguns are now being sold for as little as £50, and handguns for £150.

    Despite a ban on handguns introduced in 1997 after 16 children and their teacher were shot dead in the Dunblane massacre the previous year, their use in crimes has almost doubled to reach 4,671 in 2005-06. Official figures show that although Britain has some of the toughest anti-gun laws in the world, firearm use in crime has risen steadily. This year eight young people have been killed in gun attacks: six in London and one each in Manchester and Liverpool.
     
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    yay for feel good laws!!!
     
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    someone post this shit up in the main forum
     
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    So they'll just pass even tougher laws, since the current ones are too weak.
    They just don't get it. And their general population is partly to blame.
     
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    What's wrong with those lazy laws? Get to work laws! :mad:
     
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    simple statistics, everyone who has a gun is now committing a crime, it will go up of course
     
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    The article leaves me with one big question what does it mean when "their [guns] use in crime . . . " does that include crimes when a gun was present even if not directly used in the criminal act? how about the crime of simply possessing a firearm, crimes relating to possession but not criminal use would skew those numbers.

    Finally this type of article only says that gun crime has gone up, in this case doubled, how have other crime rates fared in the same time period, in this case we appear to be talking about total number not rate, so what has the population done in that time period? Lastly do any of these more prevalent new articles that state the crime has gone up ever directly tie it to the fact that they are illegal? I mean the article talks about making laws requiring people to inform the law about people with weapons and minimum sentences for people with a knife . . .
     
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