Issues, motherboard/cpu? Long post

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  1. abysed

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    Summary(/Cliffs): This all started about four days ago, I was getting 2-3 BSOD's a day, usually the IRQ_DRIVER_NOT_EQUAL or BAD_POOL_CALLER and whatever. Can't get into either OS for more than 2 minutes without a BSOD or kernel panic. Memory tested fine, pulled all hardware and issue remains. Mobo/cpu shot?

    Hardware: I built this computer about 16 months ago and it's been perfect until now. Current hardware: ASRock P4V88 motherboard, P4 3.2GHz, 2x512MB PC3200 DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce FX5500 AGP, nVidia GeForce 4 MX400? PCI, generic PCI sound card, SATA 200GB HD, IDE 400GB HD, generic DVD burner.

    I thought it might have been a power supply issue, so I bought a new 600W PSU. Of course, no change.

    Diagnose: The system would no longer POST, so I took one memory stick out and I can at least get into the BIOS and attempt to boot into either Windows or Linux. I ran memtest86 on both sticks individually and they both check out fine. As long as I only have one stick in, it'll POST. However, once it tries to boot into Windows or Linux, it either dies right away or I get a BSOD/kernel panic. By dying I mean it'll just lock up, or I get a different BSOD/kp each time. Every 1 in 10 tries I'll at least get the whole OS loaded before this happens. As well, I can't boot off of any CD's without it dying on me. BSOD's in Windows setup and hard lockups with Linux cd's. I took out the sound card and PCI video card, same issues. Put them back in, took out AGP card, same issues. Put it back in, unplugged both HD's, cdrom, and floppy. Same issues.

    Assumptions: Memory is fine unless both sticks are in, and my power supply is brand new so that shouldn't be the issue. Pulled out everything I could, issue is still there so all of that should be fine. All that I can really guess is it's either the motherboard or processor.

    Any ideas? :sadwavey:
     
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    What's the ENTIRE BSOD error? ususally with both those errors it will list a file or stop error which can provide greater insight as to the error.

    The most common bad_pool_caller stop error is 0x2c, which is a driver conflict iirc. You wouldn't happen to have an Audigy sound card would you? "Generic" isn't a brand lol.
     
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    Cold boot
    Attempt 1: Froze after selecting Start Windows Normally
    Attempt 2: Rebooted after selecting Start Windows Normally
    Attempt 3: Froze after selecting Start Windows Normally
    Attempt 4: BSOD after selecting Last Known Good Configuration


    A problem has been detected and Windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.

    DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

    If this is the first time blah blah

    Check new hardware/software, installed correctly, ask hardware/software manufacturer for any windows updates

    If problem continues, remove newly installed hard/software, disable bios memory such as caching/shadowing, if needed use safe mode etc

    Technical information:

    *** STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x0F8C0FCF,0x00000002,0x00000001,0xF84F1748)


    *** ACPI.sys - Address F84F1748 base at F84E8000, DateStamp 41107d27
     
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    No it's not an audigy, and I only got the bad_pool_caller BSOD once. I believe the card I have is a C-Media 8738.

    Attempt 5: BSOD after selecting Start Windows Normally

    same Windows error shit as above EXCEPT NO DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL ON SCREEN

    Technical information:

    *** STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC000001D,0xF84CEF1C,0xF894DFB8,0xF894DCB4)

    *** d347bus.sys - Address F84CEF1C base at F84C2000, Datestamp 4128a01d
     
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    Attempt 6: BSOD after selecting Start Windows Normally. Saw XP boot screen for half a second.

    Again, no DRIVER_IRQL_etc, just tech information:

    *** STOP: 0x0000007E (0x80000003,0xF87B92DB,0XF894E2C8,0XF894DCF4)


    *** PCIIDEX.SYS - Address F87B92DB base at F87B7000, DateStamp 41107b4c
     
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    Attempt 7: BSOD after 5 seconds of XP boot screen.

    A problem has been detected...

    PFN_LIST_CORRUPT

    If this is the first time...

    Technical information:

    *** STOP: 0x0000004E (0x00000007,0x000043C9,0x00000001,0x00000000)



    So as you can see, it's different every time.
     
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    Tried safe mode with networking.

    *** STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005,0xF8451018,0xF894E44C,0xF894E148)


    *** SCSIPORT.SYS - Address F8451018 base at F843C000, DateStamp 41107b4b


    edit: I can get into straight Safe Mode. That's about it.
     
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    Thanks for getting all of those for me. I still don't think it's related to just Windows because I get errors when booting into Linux or off the Windows setup cd. I'll give these a try and see if theres any hardware changes that will make my computer happy once again.
     
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    Well I'm just going to go ahead and get a new motherboard... probably take a few days to ship up here but oh well
     
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    if memory is okay, could be bad controller, or cpu cache.
     
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    Yeah I'm hoping it's not the CPU because thats the last thing I want to spend $200+ on..
     
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    is it a boxed Intel CPU? If it is, you have a 3 YEAR warranty, and you can just RMA it to Intel and get a brand new one :)

    If you bought an OEM CPU then you obviously never listened to my advice, and I think you'd be shit outta luck on the CPU issue.

    ALWAYS buy boxed CPUs!
     
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    I've never bought a retail CPU, always OEM. :noes: but i've never had one die either...

    I'm guessing it's better to go with the boxed CPU because of the incredibly long warranty at a very cheap price increase? Makes sense...
     
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    I have no idea if mine is a boxed cpu or not.. I'm guessing it is, but I don't remember where I bought it from and I don't have anything from the box other than the chip. I'll be getting my new motherboard on Wednesday or so, I'll find out then what the deal is.
     
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    OEM CPUs are ones tested by the manufacturer and determined to be of lower quality, but probably functional. The reason why CPU companies do this is because huge manufacturers of computers and big corporations usually buy their CPUs by the case -- if not the truckload -- and the inconvenience of walking back to the storeroom to get a second CPU when the first one doesn't work is nothing compared to the money they save. Normal people like you and I don't have that luxury, so it's better to buy a boxed CPU. You can also prove that the CPU is new and still covered by warranty if you buy it in a box. Think of the extra cost as an insurance payment.
     
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    Alright, I'm back up and running... it was something with my motherboard. CPU is still running fine. I looked carefully at my dead mobo and couldn't find anything wrong - burn spots or broken pieces.. :wiggle:
     
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    I bet it was dust. I killed a motherboard with a can of air once, when I was blowing dust out of the case. Problem is, some of that dust was definitely tiny pieces of metal from where the case screws rubbed against the screw holes.
     
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    Yeah, that could have been it.. I tried using a can of air to clean everything as best I could before trying to diagnose it any further, but that didn't solve it. I have enough issues now (cpu running hot) on top of the format I just did so I'll be busy for a while :wiggle: Thanks again for the replies
     
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    no, that's not what happened.

    you killed it with static electricity.

    or you touch yourself at night...

    one of the two.
     
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    no, that's not what happened.

    you killed it with static electricity.

    or you touch yourself at night...

    one of the two.
     

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