SRS Is there such a thing as Unconditional Love?

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  1. beanolo

    beanolo It does a body good!!!1

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    Besides family and dogs, is there really such a thing in regular relationships?

    The word love is so easily misused nowadays that it has almost become meaningless to most, and its come down to the point where actions DO speak louder than words.

    But what I want to know, is there really such a thing as unconditional love?

    Even couples who have been together for years.... decades even..... even they have conditions that they have in their heads for their SO, maybe they might not make it apparent to the other, but its there.

    I sometimes question myself, if I could love someone unconditionally, beyond physical attraction, through thick and thin.. but I still have SOME conditions... one of the biggest would be that the other person would have to love me back the same. So again, thats a condition... although its not much to ask, it still IS, a condition.

    How do you all feel about that?
     
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    I've tried to figure out scenarios to achieve something like this. It's easy to start a relationship based on having no requirements but you eventually start to feel more connected and have a desire to help each other grow, and that requires pushing each other's buttons from time to time. It's natural to have needs from your partner as it's difficult to experience something positive and refrain from wanting it again. Knowing that someone is supposed to love you, if their actions show otherwise you will naturally be disappointed and feel lied to.

    However, I do think that unconditional love does exist when a partner passes on.

    Perhaps it's possible to have positive and appreciative feelings towards someone like you would if they were gone, but I don't believe that is the point. After all we are humans, not angels
     
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    I believe unconditional love exists. It takes a couple who are ready to be selfless for each other and belong to each other completely, regardless of what happens between them. Unconditional love, oddly enough, is different depending on your opinion of what love is. I know I can love people despite their faults and they can love me despite mine, none of us are perfect... but some of us are perfect for each other.

    I think when it comes down to it, relationships can contain unconditional love, but only after you know the person completely. That takes a long time of listening and responding honestly. When you lose the need to impress a person, to look good for them, to hide who you really are... That's when unconditional love can begin and conditional love leaves.
     
  4. I believe in it. But everyone's interpretation of "unconditional love" will be slightly different. I totally believe it can happen and have seen it in one or two of my frineds who are married. I'm not sure if this has anything to do with it but both the couples were solid christians and had strong faith.....??? maybe a coiencidence, maybe not?
     
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    Unconditional love does not exist. Love sucks.
     
  6. beanolo

    beanolo It does a body good!!!1

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    Now THATS weird. Also pretty sad that if the only way to achieve this is through death. :hs:


    Very true... yet I find it hard to see there be absolutely no conditions... at all.

    mmmmmm... hmm.

    It seems like for the consensus, unconditional love is like the tooth fairy.. I WANT TO BELIEVE! :run:
     
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    beanolo It does a body good!!!1

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    Love is almost like an addiction... Once you had a taste of it, you long for it, and want more... and when its gone... you find it hard to function without it.
     
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    ...and since it comes and goes so quickly, it's stupid to become dependant upon it. Make wise choices with your heart.
     
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    beanolo It does a body good!!!1

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    Much Love!:mamoru:
     
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    True love is unconditional.
     
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    I feel this way too sometimes :o
     
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    Been there...got the t-shirt....got the broken heart...got the shattered soul.
     
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    beanolo It does a body good!!!1

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    You also learned a great deal from it.. everyone has to go through heart break... its crucial to understand relationships.
     
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    Bioanger Self-Proclaimed moron

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    Humanity's perception of reality is conditional. Life is conditional. Within these parameters love can be as unconditional as you make it.
     
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    I don't suppose you would care to elucidate on that would you?
     

  17. :bigthumb: +1 .....couldn't have said that better myself
     
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    I think love will have conditions...it's the degree in which we place them on certain individuals that define our relationships.

    While it may be a romantic vision to say true love is unconditional...you'd have a hard time really finding something like that outside of examples such as Jesus, Buddha, Mother Teresa....OH! And Princess Bride.
     
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    Sure. What I mean by that, is that you have to sometimes take a step back... in order to move forward. Life is full of experiences... some are good... some are bad... and some are downright rock bottom shitty.

    Everyone hits these points at some point in their life... its impossible not too... shit happens, and when it does, all you can do is learn from that mistake, and move on, without letting it happen again. Also known as "learning things the hard way"... we all know it.. yet we always tend to like the hard way for some reason.

    When you make a mistake in life... its done. Don't spend days.. months.. years regretting something in the past... theres no point. Use that knowledge as you go through life and relationships, so you will know how to handle situations if/when they arise later... IF they arise.

    What was the saying? Life is bittersweet? Can't have the sweet without the bitter.. ;)
     
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    Which is why I try to imagine how I'd feel if someone were gone. If I'm upset at the at the time, those feelings deminish rapidly and I can get a sense of what it's like to love unconditionally because the little things, even some of the big things really seem unimportant if they're no longer around
     
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    First off, I can't say I understand with a straight face with you because I honestly haven't been through what you have. Although your generalizations of guys, how you refer to "them", seems a bit warped to me. There ARE good guys out there, perhaps the traits you look for lead to the same outcomes? :dunno:

    I work in sales, I see/talk to new people daily... while doing this, I get to meet and talk to people/couples and I see traits in some couples... happiness that I wonder how they achieved... These are not newlyweds, these are seniors... married for 50 years, still smiling at each other.. I can see the love in their eyes when they look at each other... I envy that... It's not like these people are any different than you and I... what did they do different? If I didn't come off as some freak, I probably would talk to them more about it if I had the chance.

    I know that a love like that can't be one-sided, it has to be an effort from both sides obviously. It's just that most relationships it seems like one side is always more giving than the other... can equal ground be found strictly through communication? Or do you really have to find the right person? Or is it both? :dunno:

    I realize now that you can't go looking for love... it's like looking for a sale item thats not on sale. It just doesn't magically appear.

    I wish the best for you Puppycat as it sounds like you've been through a lot, but it sounds like you have a pretty funny demeanor and I'm sure you'll do just fine. :)
     
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    God is unconditional love beyond your wildest imagination :)

    We all have the power to becoming loving beings that produce eternal energy. We are Love =)

    We have no idea of how beautifull we actually are.
     
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    Situations like what?
     
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    Interesting. Well that SHOULD be a condition on marriage itself. Again, a condition. This is a big one though. I can't see anyway around it with this not being a condition. I guess in a relationship that is so strong, that it might not even be an issue?

    A stronger trust perhaps? Where it wouldn't even need to be an issue?
     

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