A&P Is there any way to take low-light shots w/o VR?

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  1. 1200mk

    1200mk Still same OG

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    I was shooting in a school auditorium w/ no flash and used a 50 f/1.8 @ 1600 and it was still too blurry.

    I am pretty sure VR would have helped alot, but I was assuming that f/1.8 would have been enough to take sharp images. I had shutter speeds of 1/60 - 1/100.
     
  2. IntheWorks

    IntheWorks windin film.. takin pics Moderator

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    I did an entire shoot during a highschool play with a 70-200 f/2.8 and got sharp images without IS.... I don't see why you couldn't get them without VR.
     
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    Were they blurry or out of focus?
     
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    example pictures?
     
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  6. Blair

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    vr isnt going to stop motion. that is probably why the pictures (of people i am assuming) were blurry.
     
  7. TtamNedlog

    TtamNedlog OT Supporter

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    Yeah, if the pictures were of moving people, you'd need faster shutter speeds than 60-100.
     
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    You might need to use flash if it's that dark.
     
  9. 1200mk

    1200mk Still same OG

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    it was kids.. and they were just standing...not really moving.
     
  10. 1200mk

    1200mk Still same OG

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    motion blur.
     
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    Not much VR can do about that. :hs:
     
  12. 1200mk

    1200mk Still same OG

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    :(

    i think so of the blur has to do with my unsteady hands also. VR would take care of that, right?
     
  13. TtamNedlog

    TtamNedlog OT Supporter

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    Yep, that's what VR does, helps with unsteady situations. Shutter speeds of 1/60-100 shouldn't really need much stabilization though unless you have horribly shaky hands.
     
  14. skolen

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    I'm dumb and can't figure out what VR means. I know IS is "image stabilization", but VR is sounding like the same thing.
     
  15. MadHax0rMan

    MadHax0rMan Give me your money... or don't

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  16. Hypnos_VI

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    Virbration Reduction. same thing.

    edit: ohhhh you beat me by like a second!
     
  17. mojito

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    if you can't hold a camera at 1/focal length you need to work on hand holding techniques or get a monopod. its most liekly motion blur not camera blur.

    ISO 3200 or 6400 helps :o
     
  18. Hypnos_VI

    Hypnos_VI JENGA!

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    good rule of thumb is to not shoot at a shutter speed that is lower than you focal length. so if your shooting 70mm keep it at like 1/90 or something. generally unless you shake like crazy anything 50 and under you should be able to shoot under 1/60 without any noticeable blur. but once you hit 70 and up, its more noticeable.
     
  19. 1200mk

    1200mk Still same OG

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    good tip, thanks!
     
  20. Blair

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    i like your rule of thumb.
     
  21. mojito

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    its pretty common knowledge ;)

    ;)
     
  22. Hypnos_VI

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    it is pretty common knowledge, but like that f/16 rule we talked about with the sun or the moon, its common but sometimes you just forget.
     
  23. mojito

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    that was more common in the film days, especially before meters were in cameras. I doubt even 5% of photographers know BDE/Sunny 16 yet its a very useful tool.

    knowing how low you can hand hold is essential to anyone that does low light work at all
     
  24. Hypnos_VI

    Hypnos_VI JENGA!

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    yea, its realy easy in digital to figure that out. when i got my speedlight i had to go out and get some cheap film and just shoot at all different settings and write them all down...lol.

    though i wish i could change my ISO on the fly! makes life so much easier. btw, i wish i could see a sample of these pictures, f/1.8 @1600 should let in a shitload of light?!
     
  25. TtamNedlog

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    Never heard of the f16 sun/moon thing. Explain?
     

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