MIL Is the Army really as bad as everyone makes it sound?

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  1. crazynova

    crazynova OT Supporter

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    I'm looking into joining the Military, and am hoping for a waiver to go through for the Air Force, but knowing that they don't give waivers too often, I am also considering the Army. I know deployement sucks, but I'm really not worried about that, and I think I would enjoy it. My problem is, everyone is trying to talk me out of it, and the only person I know who has Army experience said he'll break my knee if I try to join the Army (never gave a reason why). He also seems to have loved his time in. I want some first hand info, is it really as bad as everyone NOT in the Army says it is? Thanks.
     
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    SiegG The real-life Dale Gribble

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    People say the Army is bad?

    What do you have to get waived?
     
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    crazynova OT Supporter

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    A rod in my femur....
     
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    Ouch. The MEPS docs dont like any foreign bodies. You will have a tough time getting in. This is also highly dependant on the doctor you see as well and who will be looking at your waiver. I would give it a shot but its really hard to get in with plates,rods,screws. Your best bet will be having much proof as possible saying that you are fully capable of aggravating that area where the rod is without any problems.
     
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    I do, I have all of my doctors records, as well as a letter saying that. I don't know if MEPS would let me, but I can also show that it does not get aggravated. A good example would be crashed my dirtbike, landing on that leg at about 50, with no problems. I can also run and cycle easily with it. I am just hoping they'll let me come in for a physical, and maybe see that it doesn't get aggravated.
     
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    they will have you do an ortho consult. He will evaluate you and write documentation that will go out to the waiver people. They will review that documentation and make their decision based on what the ortho specialist says. I can gaurantee you will know if your waiver will come back approved/dissaproved based on whatever the ortho specialist says in the documentation write up. The people who decide on the waivers will always go with the ortho specialist. This is where your waiver will highly depend on which ortho specialist you see. For example I saw the same ortho specialist 2 times. Both times it was denied. I went in a third time and saw a different ortho specialist. This time it was approved. This was all within the same year. Just hope you get a leniant ortho specialist.

    Edit- Basically you have to sell yourself when you speak to the ortho consult. If you can make him beleive you are fully capable of handling the rigors of military training, and if he writes you a consult in your favor then your waiver will come back approved.
     
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    Also remember that the MEPS are looking after themselves not you. The reason they are making you go through this waiver process is because they dont want to have to pay for your hospital bill if you come back hurt and cant finish basic. If you have documentation from your private doctor that conflicts with what their doctors says I can gaurantee you that the people who decide your waiver will always go with their doctors.
     
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    kidhero not really a hero, really just a big fat phony

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    how much fun you have in the military is entirely dependent on three things: 1) job 2) location 3) unit
     
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    I know a combat medic who is in the Army and he just got stationed @ Torii from Ft. Bragg. He loves the Army and what it has helped him personally and professionally. He just hates Okinawa for some reason lol.
     
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    LOL! I have the same exact thing. Rod in my right femur and a screw above my knee to hold it. Ive been in for close to 2 yrs. I only had to get paperwork from my doc sayin i was good to go and that was that. No waiver needed.
     
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    crazynova OT Supporter

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    Thats good to know - mine is also in my right femur, 15" long, with 2 screws. It was a pretty common midshaft fracture I had I guess.
     
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    i reckon. mine was from a 4 wheeler landing on me. I only have problems with my hip flexor being really tight. i also have a popping sound doing situps, the wonderful tmc doc said it was just the tight muscle/tendon going over the bone. what job you looking at doing?
     
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    bassjunky I'm baaaaa-ack!

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    They let people in with all kinds of ailments and afflictions. I have had privates come in with everything from bipolar disorder to chronic artheritis; Screws and pins in body as well.
     
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    so true. even with my extremely limited time in i can see the lower standards from when i joined.
     
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    bassjunky I'm baaaaa-ack!

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    Oh it gets worse. I have seen it to even before I came on the trail but being here made it more of a reality for me. The recruiting standards have dropped so much that they are now letting in people with felonies, another company had a no **it child molester in their ranks. I have had many privates that came in under the "go to war or go to jail" scenario.
     
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    Oh so great to have these "people" fill the ranks of our organization. If i might ask what unit are you with there? BCT or AIT?
     
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    bassjunky I'm baaaaa-ack!

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    BCT was fun. the only difficult part was putting up with the complete morons that were there as well.
     
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    bassjunky I'm baaaaa-ack!

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    Every day! The stupidity here knows no bounds. To include other DS's.
    :o
     
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    Yeah, I'm really not sure what job I would want yet. 96B looks appealing, but I think I want something more hands on. A friend of mine just finished up with 31B training, and she loves it, but I've heard life as an MP is boring. I haven't taken the regular ASVAB yet, but I got a 97 on the practice, so I should qualify for just about everything.
     
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    well 96B where im at do whatever they have a need for in the unit. theres an over abundance of them around. and all the MI MOS's are now 35 series. im a 35T, but will always be a 33W @ heart. pick something youll enjoy, but you definitely wont always do your job.
     
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    Yeah, there are so many MOS's in the Army, its hard finding specific ones that interest me, since there are so many to read through. 21B looks like it would be interesting, as well as 89D.
     
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    Ranger-AO I'm here for the Taliban party. Moderator

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    21B ftw :bigthumb:

    It can be an extremely physical MOS, though. Be sure you're up to it before you sign the dotted line.
     

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