is "overtraining" a myth?

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  1. SocialBrokerz

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    I hear its best to do resistance and then take a day off and do cardio, so your muscles can "recover." Rinse and repeat.

    Is this all a myth? I feel like my body is shrinking on days where I can't do resistance because I'm "supposed to be recovering my muscles" on that day.

    If I do chest and back one day, would it be wrong if i do back and biceps the next?
     
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    no such thing as over training just undereating.
     
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    whoever told you that you need to take a day off for every lifting day is a moron. although many people do have splits that goes one day on, one day off, if you going doing weights 2 days in a row (different muscle groups) it's fine.

    your body does need to recover, which is why sleep, proper nutrition, and days off are extremely important. most common routines involve 3-5 days of weight training with the remainder being off/cardio days.

    you need to try different routines and see what works for you. there is no law or one-size-fits-all approach. even though it's very common for people to hit muscle groups twice a week, if you are novice lifter and still getting to know your body hitting the same muscle group 2 days in a row isn't a good idea.

    what people typically describe as "overtraining" is when your body gets to a certain point (after weeks/months of working out) where if you have been pushing your limits in the gym on a constant basis with no scaling back or deloading, your body can become fatigued from it. you might hit a plateau or start losing weight. there is much discussion as to whether this condition even exists which i am not looking to debate with anyone.

    from personal experience, i know that if i have been going hard for a couple months without taking a break i begin to feel different. after my workouts instead of feeling a rush or pump i feel like shit, almost to the point of depressed, for no reason. when i take it light for a week or take time off i'll feel better when i get back. whether this is overtraining or not i'm not sure, but i know it sucks and i've had it happen several times.


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    no rhyme or reason, varies person to person

    if you feel tired and your muscles ache, you should probably kick it down a notch

    that's basically it, gotta listen to your body
     
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    For the most part, yes. Overtraining is an excuse for being a pussy. But it can realistically happen, just most dont have the drive and dedication to actually push themselves to that point.
     
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    I did it once, it's possible. Combination of training 5 days a week, eating next to nothing (and nearly no protein) and getting probably 4 hours of sleep a night for about 3 months.
     
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    individuals have different recovery capacities, so saying one thing or another will lead to over training isn't true. Listen to your body, if you lose motivation, get upper resp. infections a lot and start to plateau or decline then you're most likely over training.
     
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    From personal experience most people can avoid the common notion of overtraining (note: not true overtraining) by getting enough sleep.
     
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    So you train people and monitor their sleep? If not, how does one deduct that by your own personal experience, "most" people can avoid over training? What do you do for a living that would allow you to monitor a large populations sleep patterns while exercising?

    PM me the answer or be banned. Seriously. I'm sick of your shit here.
     
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    Most people under train or don't train at all, and most people don't get enough sleep. This is pretty obvious when you look out the window. You're average dude is so far from over training that it doesn't matter.

    If anything, retards at the gym who think they are "over-training" feel like ass because their training isn't frequent and consistent enough. You never get over the initial DOMS because you blow yourself out once a week and then sit on your ass. Training through a lot of this will actually force you to adapt, not to mention flush out some lactic acid.

    I went from doing 1/2 hour workouts inconsistently to 1.5 hour workouts 3 times per week with prowler sprints and dynamic front squats from hell and I'm way less sore and tired than before.
     
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    im amazed so many of you guys can tell when someone is or isnt overtrained just be looking at them.
     
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    I feel better about climbing on my off days now. Although my climbing has suffered pretty badly:hsd:
     
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    just do biceps everyday, fucking borly in a hurry bro
     
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    you have to listen to your body. when it's calling for you. listen to your body, there's nothing else you can do.

    i don't know where you're going and i don't know why.. listen to your body before you tell him goodbye.
     
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