is muslce milk a weight gainer or reducer?

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  1. quamen

    quamen New Member

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    I just started to take muscle milk,but i want to gain weight not lose weight. I see it says it is for muslce growth,but for fat loss. Should i be taking this stuff if i want to gain weight? I was taking cytogainer and didnt see much results, so i said ill try this
     
  2. scent of a wookie

    scent of a wookie OT Supporter

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    don't listen to their advertising

    it's high in calories (relative to other proteins) so primarily for some one looking to gain weight
     
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    chizzle New Member

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    More calories in than out = weight gain
    Less calories in than out = weight loss
     
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    Cytogainer has much more calories. Just get regular protein man. If your trying to put on more weight you gotta eat real food. Weight gainers arent going to cut it
     
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    I bought a tub of cytogainer and almost vomitted it after taking it. I prefer MuscleMilk over Cytogainer for calories. I also have RussianBear 5000, its real good too.
     
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    I take it pretty much as an MRP and will use it to gain as well as to cut.
     
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    darkostoj NEEEERRRRDDDDSSSS

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    WRONG :squint:
     
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    I think there has to be a diminishing returns curve here somewhere. If I gain more muscle by spending more calories throughout the day, i believe I would gain weight.
     
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    cavefish You ain't a crook son, you just a shook one

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    scent of a wookie OT Supporter

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    how can you argue with that?
     
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    muscle milk is a meal replacement as advertised. imo, its neither a weight gainer or weight reducer. i take it as a snack or something "on the go".
     
  12. darkostoj

    darkostoj NEEEERRRRDDDDSSSS

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    it doesnt take into effect insulin response and nutrition timing. I used to believe the exact same thing, but since I started picking my foods wisely and timing them right I could bump my calories up to 4500 a day, gain a lot of strength, and drop fat all at the same time.

    there are many articles like this one, but here is a good explanation
    http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=628588&pageNo=0
     
  13. michael

    michael FLORIDA > *

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    have any current pics of you, bro?
     
  14. disblohs

    disblohs I can't shake this little feeling I'll never get a

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    something to consider

    http://www.elitefts.com/documents/bodybuilder_nutrition.htm

    not saying what's right or wrong, but you might find that link interesting
     
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    It was obviously a generalization. From a basic standpoint, it's true. But I realized the same thing you did. I used to only eat 5 meals, 3 big ones and then one or two shakes. Now I'm taking in 7 meals, two medium-sized ones (breakfast and lunch, meals #1 and #4) along with 5 smaller meals (generally comprised of shakes and my pre-bedtime meal - cottage cheese and almonds).
     
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    i love ot f&n
     
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    That's what I was gonna say. It can be a meal replacement and what matters is the big picture.
     
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    darkostoj NEEEERRRRDDDDSSSS

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    I was going to post a progress thread at the end of my cut, you're gonna have to wait a little :noes:

    I'm not saying there is any right way to go about eating properly. I'm sure every single fact regarding nutrition and bodybuilding has an exact opposite stated fact that are all backed by scientific research, people that know what they are talking about, blah blah blah. Thats the difficulty in knowing what a person needs to do for the goals they seek, because there is so much information out there and not all of it is right. Thats one of the reasons I like coming here, because we can ask the big guys first hand what we need to do instead of some skinny 175lb guy with a degree or had read some book that is going on theory instead of first hand experience. I'd rather listen to the guy competing in a BBer show or PLer competition on how the best way to reach their same level than a guy that just knows "theories" I mean following a 175lb'ers Bodybuilding routine is like having Martha Stewart show me how to sell an 8 ball of coke.
     
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    :rolleyes: Still comes down to energy balance.
     
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    my favorite to is see you fat fucks and your cal is a cal shit. Not one of you is lean by any stretch or even muscular so please keep going on with your cal in cal out bullshit.

    As for the muscle milk, use it as an mrp, although the low protein sucks, i wish they had a 50 gram one. I like them after i train sometimes
     
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    I didn't say that, I said- you can get fat eating clean just as easily as eating dirty. Ther'es nothing fucking magical about clean food. Fattest I've ever been in my life was following Berardi's eating plan to the T; the leanest I've ever been was doing distance running and living off poptarts/gummi bears.
     
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    And Pur, you *always* say that shit yet conveniently don't bring up Timber or Chris3G who don't necessarily hold your views on nutrition yet are extremely lean and built and therefore know their shit in your estimation.
     
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    Not sure about Chris but Timber doesn't count. Although even Timber did gain some fat from too much poutine, as he noted.
     
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    they are 170....and happen to be genetically gifted not to mention chris has said before hes used gear...uh oh...dont remember that do you? Timber is so far ahead of all of you and would be lean as fuck without ever lifting. I dont expect you to understand. Your bf has never been under 25%. So please keep preaching it. I tell you what, get to 15-16% eating the way you like to talk about and prove me wrong or at least get lean for once. Your pics all look like before pics. Im not even trying to be mean either, just telling you, your bf is national average and your about 30 pounds too high. You have never been lean so stop saying it, and enjoy your gummy bears.

    And timber was getting nice and smooth the minute he tried to bulk dirty..nice try though.


    ps....gummy bear and lean dont go in the same sentence, start there and you will be good to go
     
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