is it normal not to get any stronger?

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  1. Leb_CRX

    Leb_CRX OT's resident terrorist

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    I been stuck on 125 bb flat bench press for the last 2 month, and not getting any stronger

    flat bench bb
    incline - bb
    decline db's
    fly's

    a bit stronger with fly's but flat is the same...wtf is it normal? been 2 month :wtc:
     
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    Why do you do decline? Do you eat? Do you workout your triceps?
     
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    Leb_CRX OT's resident terrorist

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    yes I eat ...I gotta calc calories, brb

    and yes I workout my triceps

    cable pulldowns
    skull crushers
    close bench
     
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    up your intensity, doing that tremendously helped me.

    where is your sticking point?
     
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    Leb_CRX OT's resident terrorist

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    what do you mean sticking point?

    by intensity do you mean weight?
    usually I go
    10, 8, 6, 6...but don't make it to 6, only get to 4, and the spot helps me get last 2

    the only thing I am not doing and not sure if I should is push out the weight with a lot of strenghts, right now I push it but not as hard as I can, I kind of just do a controlled motion
     
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    Leb_CRX OT's resident terrorist

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    I eat about 2500 a day

    I am 6'0, 190 pounds about 16% BF

    should I be eating more?
     
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    well do you want to cut or bulk?
     
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    and whats wrong with decline neo?
     
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    Leb_CRX OT's resident terrorist

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    I am kind of looking to drop BF and maintain weight

    I know I know y'all said it was impossible, but I been doing it since I signed up 3-4 month ago, I went from 22% to about 16% and maintained the same weight

    I am not sure right now if it would be better for me to bulk or cut, I am kind of riding this maintenance thing t'il it's done

    recommend me, i'm all ears
     
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    A sticking point is where you usually fail your lift...i.e at the bottom of the lift(right off your chest) , middle, or top of the lift. knowing that can help determine what muscle you need to target to get your #'s up. So on that 5th rep of the last set, where are you failing?

    As for overall intesity, I just mean that you need up your sets reps and eat more to compensate for that.Also concentrate on Pressing motions rather than flys to get stronger.
     
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    i dunno.. i'd pick a goal. cut fat or bulk. you'll get results faster this way
     
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    I'm not only NOT getting stronger, I've gotten weaker in the last month.:wtc:
    I haven't even really started to eat clean.
     
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    Leb_CRX OT's resident terrorist

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    you looked like a big guy from your pics, so I can imagine you benching like 200+, no?

    I am only at like 125...this is pathetic, considering I started out at like 60, it is an improvement but sad...I feel like shit I was hoping to at least get to 1 plate on each side :wtc:
     
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    Leb_CRX OT's resident terrorist

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    I gotta decide, but even if I was cutting how would I be getting stronger at the same time
     
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    GOGZILLA Double-Uranium Member

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    if youre (new) losing strength or plateau'd theres two reasons: not eating enough/properly or youre overtraining. or you could just have no idea how to work out. being plateau'd at 125 i would think is pretty impossible unless youre fucking up one of the above
     
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    cavefish You ain't a crook son, you just a shook one

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    I feel like I've gotton stronger while on my diet but I havnt really maxed out on anything, just going by weight and increased reps.

    I'm not doing a strength routine either, I'm still volume training.
     
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    Leb_CRX OT's resident terrorist

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    interesting I never knew...how would I go about making this stronger? :bigthumb:

    you mean I should be doing 12, 10, 8, 8 instead of 10, 8, 6, 6? I will definitivally start eating more now, I just cna't stand to look at myself with a gut, I've finally gotten to where I am comfortable with myself and I don't want to gain it back..but if I have no choice then I will

    I thought fly's were good for strenghts? what are htey good for if not? I am curious
     
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    Big guy...no. Under 175lbs.
    At the same weight though, just a month or two ago I did a single with 310lbs (315 at 178lbs is my best ever). Lately I've had difficulty even with 295. Its been hit or miss.
     
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    GOGZILLA Double-Uranium Member

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    you definitely need to get your weight up :hsd:
     
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    Leb_CRX OT's resident terrorist

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    ya I agree with you I must of fucked up one of the above

    now I am gonna hit up the eating and gonna start being a pig and eating all in sight

    but regarding overtraining how can I find out if I did?
    I usually workout each muscle group once a day
    4 diff exercises per each...with 4 sets (10, 8, 6, 6 usually)

    should I change that down to 3
    also not sure if this helps or not (I remember mention of soreness in overtraining once or twice I think), but I am not usually sore the day after, but the day after that I am hurting like a bitch, and hte day after that less, then I am good...not sure if that says anything ? :dunno:
     
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    Go 1 plate on each side, but do negatives with a spot
     
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    hmm interesting
     
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    Leb_CRX OT's resident terrorist

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    in a bench are negatives the up motion or the down?
     
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    GOGZILLA Double-Uranium Member

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    dont take offense if use the word "beginner" but for beginners its really hard to overtrain unless youre just being ridiculous and you look like youve got a decent structure going on. its more than likely your diet so revamp that if anything. also take a look at christophers base routine for some ideas if youre concerned about your routine.
     
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