MIL is anybody in the Navy? Information Warfare Officer? Got some Q's

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  1. HardTech

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    About me:
    - 24 years old, American citizen
    - fluent in Korean and English
    - 5'10, ~170 pounds.. fairly muscular and fit
    - graduated high school in 2001, college in 2005, and graduate school in 2006
    - Information Systems major in college and graduate school (I have a Masters)
    - 1 year of solid work experience.. probably 3 years if you count IT-related jobs throughout college and graduate school
    - no criminal record, no arrests, I never did drugs and I don't do alcohol

    I'm just entertaining the idea of joining the Navy and ultimately the FBI in doing what I can to help the world.

    Questions:
    - What is the minimum time commitment for service in the Navy?
    - I assume everybody goes to Boot Camp for at least 8 weeks. Assuming I survive this, what are the next steps? How soon am I an officer?
    - Are there any benefits to going through the Navy first before applying to the FBI in cyber crime?
     
  2. Mangos

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    isnt the fbi / cia cut off age 26?
     
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    seriously doubt it
     
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    there is a few sweet assignments here in seoul for you with the korean language proficiency. pm me for info.
     
  5. crucial_fiction

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    you could go into the intel community and do quite well...yes, we do use korean speakers quite a bit. Though the duty stations you'd have would be limited to korea/japan and the rim.
     
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    You mention Info Systems experience and then IWO in the title. They are two completely different fields of jobs in the navy. IWO's generally work with the CT's/IS's in the TS spaces. On bigger decks they usually are riders from commands like NIOC when the ship deploys. There is the "IT" field for officers, and you usually do one tour (your first one) at sea to build up the experience & rank, then for the most part you work shoreside in the states or overseas.
     
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  9. HardTech

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    all of my immediate family members are citizens, but my girlfriend is a South Korean citizen... she's looking to change that to an American citizenship as soon as possible, though
     
  10. HardTech

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    what's the intel community?

    also, if I join the navy, do I go to OCS immediately because of my college degree? I don't go to boot camp? How long is the commitment?
     
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    if you have a degree, do not enlist! go OCS!
     
  12. crucial_fiction

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    From what it seems you're talking about with your background and what not, you'd probably want to go into the intelligence/information assurance type of program. Don't go into boot camp (that is being enlisted). You want to go officer, go into intel/info assurance type of program. You will go to OCS NOT Boot!!!!

    Yes, you will go through OCS because of your degree. The avg commitment is I believe ~6 years.
     
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    Ok I reread the bottom part and it looks like you want to do some sort of network security type thing? (with your interest in fbi cyber crime). For the NAVY your only choices are to be a divo for an ADP division and be the IAM (information assurance manager), you'd report directly to the CO on all matters network security related. However note that you won't actually be doing anything network security related, thats handled mostly by your ships ISSO (information system security officer or some shit) who is probably going to be a chief or below (depending on size of ship).

    After that you can start trying for orders to commands like NIOC, NCDOC, or NETWARCOM as an IT officer with your network security schools. Note however most work is done by civilians nowadays on the shore side. I think if you wan't to do a specific job the navy at least is a bad way to go. You'll spend more time not doing your job than you would doing it, ESPECIALLY on ships, and ever increasing ESPECIALLY on shore commands with the changing of almost all shore billets over to civilian jobs.

    I dunno take a look at the air force, I know this is a bad example but go watch movies, anytime the military is shown when something is happening to worldwide networks and security shit its always the air force shown, never the navy.
     
  14. HardTech

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    I figure Navy would be a safer route if we went to war with some country... that, and I have a friend in the Navy and it'd be sweet to get him to do pushups and shit whenever I felt like it
     
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    You should do intel, but for the Army not the navy.
     
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    Nope, and never.
     
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    Skip the Navy. I seriously doubt it will help you pursue your ultimate goal.
     
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    Why would the navy be a safer route? If we got into war with Iran and you were stationed onboard a ship, you'd get deployed to within a few hundred miles of the country with small boats of Iranians trying to blow you the fuck up. If your in the air force stationed at xxxx air force base, you are in the US.
     
  20. HardTech

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    I don't know much about network security except for the basics. I'd like to do more forensics-type work, like seize computers and determine what crimes have taken place on them and testify in court and things like that. Disrupting illegal webrings and catching pedophiles, human slave traffickers, and illegal immigrant dealers would be cool as hell
     
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    He'd have to crosstrain into it.
     
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    just avoid the Army at all costs
     
  24. HardTech

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    thanks for the input, everybody :wavey:
     

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