Is a calorie just a calorie?

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  1. shastaisforwinners

    shastaisforwinners OT Supporter

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    cliffs: from a FAT LOSS standpoint, if protein intake is adequate, the source of calories makes virtually NO difference.
     
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    Werdna Livin' the SLO Life...

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    protein also yields slightly less calories upon digestion and absoprtion than carbs (it's like 3.9 vs. 4.2 calories per gram).
     
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    So does this mean you don't have to gain fat when bulking. If you eat a shitload of protein but kept your calories equal to your output. Does this work? I really wanna gain muscle this summer, but I sure as hell don't wanna put fat on.
     
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    No, it doesn't mean that.
     
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    By definition, a calorie=a calorie or actually a food calorie=1000 calories. Now there may be some negligable difference in the efficiency at which your body uses the energy source, but that doesn't mean that going down a calorie's worth of fat isn't the same as a calorie's worth of protein.
     
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    eh...kinda, 1 Calorie = 1000 calroies, but Calorie is what most people think of when they're talking about calories, but it's really a kilocalorie
     
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    okay 1 kilocalorie = 1000 calories. on nutrition information, instead of putting 70,000 calories per serving of nonfat cottage cheese, they just put 70 cals. i suppose they could put 70kcals
     
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    They label it correctly, a Calorie with a capital C is 1000 calories
     
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    no, that means you will maintain your weight/muscle. To bulk, you need an excess of calories. You will fain some fat when bulking, its just the nature of teh beast. If you micromanage you food intake, you can minimize how much fat you gain but thats not much fun.
     
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    no, its saying that one protein requirements are met:
    a calorie from a carb = a calorie from protein = a calorie from fat (when you are talking about FAT gain or FAT loss)
     
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    along the same lines over at ruggedmag

    edit: read this discussion on ruggedmag for the whole 9 page arguement on this. In the end, ARchaic gets his ass handed to him.
     
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    also, high protien intake has been correlated with lowered testosterone.
    http://jap.physiology.org/cgi/reprint/82/1/49
     
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    PurEvl going out gassed and not half assed...

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    you wanna find out...take two people and diet one on clean foods and diet one on same calories from fast food..lets see who looks better. A calorie is not just a calorie..sorry, if it was we would all be dieting on steak and cheese
     
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    mmmmmm steak


    mmmmmmmm cheese

    :drool:
     
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    I wouldn't. I'd be too damn hungry all the time eating the small amount of food that would make up my daily calories.
     
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    what about chips, cookies, cakes, cupcakes, crackers, ice cream, taco bell, mcdonalds, wendys, etc etc? you know, like 60% of the fat fucks of america eat!
     
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    Macronutrient ratios have little to do with weight loss, but what most people don't realize is that weight loss does not necessarily mean fat loss. Sure someone who gets the protein sparring effects of eating nothing but high protein, low carb, low fat foods is going to lose more fat than muscle and a person eating essentially no protein is going to lose more muscle and less fat. But this only goes to a certain point. Someone eating 1-1.5g of protein per lb of lbm is not going to see much more muscle loss than a person eating 3g/lb of lbm, but a person eating 30g or protein a day or whatever the hell the new RDV is will sure as hell lose more muscle. Of course all this is affected by exercise and uncountable other variables but you get my drift. After typing all this I realized I don't know why I am telling you this considering you made the comment, but you know.
     
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    FDA is fucking 60g of a protein per day.
     
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