MIL Iraq approves U.S. Withdrawl / Security pact.

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  1. WildBull

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    BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The Iraqi Cabinet on Sunday approved a security pact that would set the terms for U.S. troops in Iraq.
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    Members of the Iraqi Cabinet vote on the security agreement Sunday in Baghdad.



    The agreement sets June 30, 2009, as the deadline for U.S. troops to withdraw from all Iraqi cities and towns, Iraqi government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said.
    The date for all troops to leave Iraq will be December 31, 2011, he said.
    These dates are "set and fixed" and are "not subject to the circumstances on the ground," he said.





    Twenty-seven of the 40 Cabinet members in attendance voted in favor of the agreement, said Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari. One minister abstained.
    The Cabinet consists of the prime minister, two deputy prime ministers, and 37 other ministers.
    The approved draft will be sent to the Council of Representatives, Iraq's 275-seat parliament, later Sunday, where it will be put to another vote. "There is great optimism that they will pass it," said Industry Minister Fawzi Hariri.
    Don't MissAl-Dabbagh said the parliament speaker and his deputies will decide when the parliament will vote on the agreement. He said there were "positive attitudes" when the major political blocs met to discuss the draft plan on Saturday.
    Zebari said the parliament will reach a decision before it takes a 15-day recess on November 25.
    In Washington, a spokesman for the National Security Council described the agreement as "an important and positive step."
    "While the process is not yet complete, we remain hopeful and confident we'll soon have an agreement that serves both the people of Iraq and the United States well, and sends a signal to the region and the world that both our governments are committed to a stable, secure and democratic Iraq," said Gordon Johndroe.
    "While there is still much work to be done, U.S. forces continue to return home and there will be 14 Brigade Combat Teams at the end of this year, down from 20 at the height of the surge," he added.
    Earlier, Sami al-Askari, an adviser to the Iraqi prime minister, said the draft included changes that made it "satisfactory" for the Iraqis.
    For months, the United States and Iraq have been negotiating a proposed status of forces agreement. It would set the terms for U.S. troops in Iraq after the U.N. mandate on their presence expires at the end of this year.
    Many Iraqi officials say they will oppose any deal that hints at compromising the country's sovereignty.
    Iraqi cleric Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani said in a statement on his official Web site last week that he will "forbid any stance that targets the sovereignty of Iraq no matter how small it is."
    In late October, Iraqi officials submitted several amendments to the draft plan to U.S. negotiators in Baghdad.
    Zebari said at the time that the proposed changes called for a fixed timetable for U.S. troop withdrawal; a specific number of sites and locations that would be used by the U.S. military; and Iraqi jurisdiction over U.S. forces who commit certain crimes in Iraq.
    Al-Dabbagh said the Cabinet on Sunday also approved a "draft framework" agreement between the U.S. and Iraq.
    This agreement "establishes the principles of cooperation and friendship in the political, diplomatic, educational, health and environmental fields in addition to economic, energy, information technology, communication fields," al-Dabbagh said.
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    fucking A but im still gonna get stoplossed FUCK
     
  5. WildBull

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    Yeah, this is badass news.... it feels really good. However, i'm sensing we'll get deployed to Afghanistan if the reserves are still in full swing.
     
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    you do realize that they'll just ship all the iraq troops to afghanistan, we're not coming home anytime soon
     
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    No they won't. We're scheduled to leave in July.
     
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    What if join right now ? Get sent to afgan ?
     
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    Yes. Getting out ftw.
     
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    It will be interesting to see if they implement a new rotation and how it will work to afghanistan
     
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    Good bye Iraq hellooo to the Ghan!
     
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    with all the news about al qaeda becoming stronger i doubt it.
     
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    All aboard the 2012 Iraqi fail boat.
     
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    NATO is getting their asses handed to them :hs:
     
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    another way to calm the liberals back here.
     
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    Coming home from war is a good thing. Always has been, and always will be. :ugh2: So please STFU






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    What would Iraq do though if we didn't leave? I mean we'd be occupying a foreign nation without their consent, so in simple terms wouldn't that be considered an act of war? Obviously they don't have the military power to force us out, no real economic sanctions can be put on us.... tell us they wont pay us back for all the relief we've given them?
     
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    You would probably have a LOT of attacks on U.S. forces.
     
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    coming home is not a liberal thing ... its a "i love my brother/husband/lover/father" thing ... :hsugh:
     
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    So how bad is ghan right now ? Constant firefights with insurgents
     
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    :werd:
     
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    The agreement sets June 30, 2009, as the deadline for U.S. troops to withdraw from all Iraqi cities and towns


    What does this mean? Are they going to put us in satellite fobs? I don't get it...
     
  23. WildBull

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    I assume MSR's will still be open, obviously. No more combat missions, no more patrols, no more forward observing, limit infantry rotation, Shut down smaller 'combat' fobs - move every body to big bases :o .
     
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    the only problem I see with that is that we tried that in 2004 and we all know what happened
     
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    in 2004 iraq didn't have a govt... they have an actual govt system in place now and VOTED for us to leave. to stay would be hypocritical to everything the US stands for... "oh, we rescued a country from a tyrant that did not allow democracy, now they have one and have voted for us to leave, but we're going to stay anyways".. how is it different then than when sadaam was in charge? obviously we aren't killing innocent civilians, however if you look at the big picture it would be political suicide to stay there after those dates.
     

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