Interesting read v men misperceiving women's cues

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  1. fray

    fray New Member

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    Since this is the vag, thought you all might be interested in this...

    In summary: New study shows men are more likely (than women, go figure) to misperceive women's non-verbal cues of friendliness as sexual advances. However, they are also more likely to mispereive sexual advances for mere friendliness. Main reasoning is believed to be a decreased sensitivity to non-verbal cues (vs. older beliefs that men just have a lower threshold on what constitutes "acting sexy"), which is more pronounced in inexperienced men.

    So basically, nothing new. Go out, talk to ladies, learn to judge signals....but interesting nonetheless.

    http://www.psychologicalscience.org/journals/ps/19_4_inpress/Farris.pdf
     
  2. Bob Brown

    Bob Brown bewshit, bewshit, bewshit

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    this is exactly why there should only be verbal cues. fuck all that eyelash batting and touching shit.
     
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    interesting topic

    worst/boringest/most horrible read ever
     
  4. fray

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    haha... well, it was a research paper. what do you expect? although it was kinda shabbily written from that perspective.
     
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    i would have died if i was trying to evaluate that paper as a teacher, of course the student would have gotten a good grade but i would talk to her about her writing techniques...im no pro at writing or anything but jesus...
     
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    JohnJohnJohnson Effetely Sipping My Latte OT Supporter

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    So there's this thing called plausible deniability :hs:

    It's funny, a lot of girls flirt the most with people they're totally comfortable around (read: unattracted to), but then when it's a guy they're actually interested in, they think that the stupidest shit will "clue" the guy into their feelings towards him.

    I've also seen the most extraordinary self-delusion where women who have male orbiters will assert with total conviction that their "friends" have only platonic thoughts about them.

    This is why psychological studies are such crap. You can't go on what people SAY. You have to go on what people do.

    A better study would investigate how many times a man's interpretation correctly led to sex versus how many times it led to rejection. Something like that, where actions are tested rather than words.
     
  7. fray

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    it's not our fault you guys don't pick up on it. :p

    you're talking to the girl who knew her boyfriend for 15 years and he didn't pick up on any clues!!!
     
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    JohnJohnJohnson Effetely Sipping My Latte OT Supporter

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    :dunno: A different man would have fucked you by then.
     
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    PlutoBHG New Member

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    i was obsessed with my current for about 4 years when i knew her back in the day...EVERYONE knew it, girls, guys, everyone...

    she claims to this day she had no clue (we met a while back again after not speaking for about 6 years)
     
  10. fray

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    did you read the study? It wasn't based on anyone saying anything. It was based on interpretation of pictures of people in certain situations...I suppose you could still say that the people don't know what they were attempting to convey, but you'd still be about 50/50 there, I think. :dunno:

    Something leading to sex wouldn't necessarily be a better estimator of the actual topic being studied, since someone could be sending no sexual signals, but eventually agree to sex anyway for any number of reasons.
     
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    its also a random behaviour that would be very hard to characterize based on 280 people....:dunno:
     
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    fray New Member

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    what does that have to do with anything?
     
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    I think the overall point is there really is no good way to quantify any of this, and it's really nothing new. haha
     
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    relationships will be a mystery forever
     
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    JohnJohnJohnson Effetely Sipping My Latte OT Supporter

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    I know, I know. Here's the difference between my assumptions and the study's, though.

    Many signs of attraction from women come through subconsciously.

    For some women, the VAST majority of signs of their attraction come through subconsciously, and if there are any conscious signs then they are weird/vague. So when a girl who you KNOW would fuck you says, "Oh we're just friends," and thinks to herself, "Yeah we're just friends," all the way up until you're smoking cigarettes, the abstract in that paper is kind of a silly conclusion to draw based on a study like this.
     
  16. fray

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    well, i don't think it's meant to be a be-all end-all. studies are always like that. very specific, to the test, the subjects, and the topic, and then try to generalize it to everything.

    I just thought it was interesting that they tried to do a study on it. Kind of like those ones where they show pics of happy/sad/confused/angry people and see which gender is better at correctly choosing the emotion based on clues in the pics.
     
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    I've been working on my cues and I'm actually starting to get it all down. Either way you just make it verbal and then you get a verbal response. The laws aren't based around "non-verbal" cues so therefore using them to justify my means isn't the smartest choice in the USA.
     
  18. JohnJohnJohnson

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    yeah it's pretty cool :bigthumb:
     
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    Cliffs: women play games with communication much more than men.
     
  20. KindlyCuddly

    KindlyCuddly Irina Lazareanu

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    Communication isn't a game.
     
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    so you'd rather play the 'no-means-yes-and-sometimes-no' game? :)

    honestly half the time i see guys not even getting the verbal cues either
     
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    its the means through which the games are conducted
     
  23. KindlyCuddly

    KindlyCuddly Irina Lazareanu

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    a lot of times it's people seeing what they want to see.
     
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    women do the same thing

    if i say "hello, its a nice day" to an attractive woman I don't know, she perceives I'm coming on to her
     
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    reading...
     

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