A lot of people on here, and in general on the internet have this pre-conceived notion before theyve ever even TRAINED legitimately that you can ONLY gain if youre at a ridiculous caloric SURPLUS or shred down when youre swallowing a pill and a can of tuna a day. I've been that guy with that notion, while I beleive it to some extent, ive learned to be realistic about it and take from it what I want/need to take, on the OTHERHAND........When you step out into the real world and off the internet you start meeting people in the fitness world who are probably 5x the size/muscle maturity that anyone you will ever speak to on the internet that is shouting ZOMG NEEDZ 2 BULKKKK WHOPPARS FOR 7 MONTHS STRAIGHT!@!!11one, and these said guys have just been training religiously and rigorously for YEARS and dont even know what the fuck BULKING means, its not even part of their vocabulary. They do everything by the book, year round, year in, year out, 1.5-2g protein/1lbs bw, healthy/wholesome carbs, veggies, fruits, healthy fats. Basically you get my drift. I guess the point of this thread is to discuss that, as personally I've been doing the latter for quite some time now, meaning I dont have blimp-face, I dont feel like a bloated pig for 6 months or what not, and Ive been making great gains with plentiful foods and what I need, when I need it. Here is a perfect example of one of my best friends who would ask you what "bulking is" (im exxagerating, he knows, he would just laugh) when you asked him that question "Do you bulk bro?"