MIL I'm thinking about switching to Civil Service.

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  1. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    Less BS, more pay?
     
  2. Short Bus

    Short Bus Beep beep!

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    I would like to do this after I hit 20 in the Air Force.

    Military pension + civil service pension + disability = nice retirement
     
  3. Ranger-AO

    Ranger-AO I'm here for the Taliban party. Moderator

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    I came in here to suggest this.
     
  4. Jbrown

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    What exactly is involved in the civil service?
     
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    Ranger-AO I'm here for the Taliban party. Moderator

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    civilian job working for the government.
     
  6. Short Bus

    Short Bus Beep beep!

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    If I could manage that, I could turn my IRA into a "buy a Ferrari account."
     
  7. jokka

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    so thats why i see all these old white guys driving porsche gt3.
     
  8. jokka

    jokka OT Supporter

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    what kind of work ?

    like working for the FBI ? CIA ? DEA ?
     
  9. Ranger-AO

    Ranger-AO I'm here for the Taliban party. Moderator

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    Not necessarily. My mom worked for the state of texas as an investigator for the State Pharmacy Board. Any state or government job is Civil Service. It can be anything from secretary to computer support to ... name a job. :dunno:
     
  10. jokka

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    so how many years do you have to work in civil to collect a pension ? 20 years ?
     
  11. pmoney

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    I think its 10 years but much reduced.

    After 20 years you get 1%, after 30 I think its 1.1%/year. Capitol police and ATCs get 1.6/1.7. The numbers actually suck working for the fed govt (FERS). The old CSRS was bad ass.

    Better to work for a state, if you work for ny state, its 2%/year.
     
  12. NisAznMonk

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    So how does your military TIS transfer? If you're AD for 6 years you only have to work 4 more years as a civil servant to retire?
     
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    You have to buy in the system. its completely worth it obviously, but I believe there is a limited number of years you can buy in.

    ex. 20 years AD, join FERS (fed employee retirement sys) you wouldn't be able to buy in 20 years, maybe only 5 I'm not sure
     
  14. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    I'm thinking of switching after this enlistment. I should have my Masters, so hopefully I could pull a GS13+ somewhere.
     
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    Same. I'm having trouble figuring out what an MBA + TS/SCI would even get me out in the real world :hsd:
     
  16. jokka

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    Those of you with masters didn't pay a cent out of your pocket right ?
     
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    I know that our ART pilots make less as a civil servant than when they are on mil orders, and they do more work. :dunno:
     
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    i pay $75 bucks a class :dunno:
     
  19. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    That is abnormal. Most civil service I have encountered have more responsibility over a specific area. Pilots are also an exception because of the extra flight pay they receive. I am not a pilot so I cannot compare apples to oranges.
     
  20. NisAznMonk

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    Depends on what school you go through. Troy wants an extra $150/class while TUI wants only $75 per class.
     

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