GUN I'm probably going to regret this but...

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  1. Radicus

    Radicus OT Supporter

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    What is the general WMD consensus on what makes the best HD weapon? I ask because one of my coworkers is going to buy his first gun today and everyone under the sun has told him to get a shotty.

    I prefer a handgun + seperate light for searching/clearing safely.
     
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    Whatever someone is willing to get training/practice to shoot proficiently with. Personally though I favor an ar.
     
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    Yup and yup
     
  4. Radicus

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    What if you have to search? Are you going to sweep everything with your barrel? Or use a seperate light? In which case your rifle wouldn't be at the ready...
     
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    Heroin
     
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  7. Radicus

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    Ok, but you're still pointing your gun at everything you're looking at with a weapon mounted light...
     
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    Shotgun, flechette rounds homie. they rape your face.
     
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    and? that's kind of the point of weapon mounted lights

    if all you had was a flashlight and a pistol you would be doing something like this

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    wouldnt you?
     
  10. Radicus

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    Do you have any family? If you had a break in wouldn't you check on them? Would you want to point your gun at them?

    and no, my hands would be seperated.
     
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    it's home defense. i'd rather point a gun at my roommate/family and then apologize then to NOT have the ability to use a light + gun and be able to open doors, etc.
     
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    and to answer your question i would use my sig p226 + surefire x300. its the gun i have the most training and experience on, it has a bright white light mounted to it, good capacity :hsugh: and it's compact enough i can use in my house (narrow hallways/doorways).
     
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    like i said, who cares if you sweep them while searching? if you're practicing proper firearm rules then your finger will be off the trigger.
     
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    If you have a family, I think your best bet would be a separate light. Can't say I would willingly point a hot weapon at someone I love.
     
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    :dunno: i still wouldn't give up the light on my weapon. it makes using your other hand so much more useful.

    opening doors - still get to have light
    reloading - still get to have light
    solid grip on firearm - still get to have light
     
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    My rifle mounted light pretty much lights the whole room up at low ready. Really no different than a handgun mounted light. The idea that you have to be dead on something to use your flashlight is one of things that I think comes from too much thinking on the internet and not enough doing.
     
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    this too.
     
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    Since i'm an armchair commando weirdo, I use the light on my weapon in my house all the time. Of course, I verify the mag is out and chamber is empty... but with a bright bulb (100 lumens on the newest model TLR-1? 235 lumens on the rifle with a Cree bulb?) i frequently bounce the light off the wall, the ceiling, the floor to get a better look of what's going on. The light on your weapon is not like a laser, you don't have to point your weapon wounted light directly at something to see it. So while you may want to get a seperate flashlight, having a weapon mounted light regardless, is a good idea.

    I'm also spoiled by my weapon's lights, since my maglite just sucks compared to even the reflected light off a weapon's grade light.

    I'd tell your buddy to buy a railed pistol of good manufacture (Sig, Glock, H&K, whatever he likes) and put a $80 TRL-1 on it and call it good.
     
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    I didn't think about that... good point.
     
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    Right now It's my Glock 17, as soon as I get a light and some .223 Hornady 75 grain match ammo it'll be AR + vest loaded with mags and holstered G17.
     
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    :rofl:
     
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    Never know when a hmong gang is gonna assault your house.
     
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    8 gauge pump shotgun
     
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    or a mosin
     
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    While I agree that spill can be used, in the past I've shot courses in low light, with shoot/no shoots, that myself and others instinctively train the weapon directly on with a light mounted on firearm. So if you're prepared to train to use the spill, then by all means use do so. But it may be best to run through certain scenarios in no/low light before assuming that you'll be able to do that safely.
     

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