Im a noob, and have gotten ALOT of bad advise for changing my body shape/size

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  1. Ovrated

    Ovrated New Member

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    So i used to go to the gym with a buddy of mine, he got ripped, i never did. granted he always put up more weight than i did, but i continue on the same routine, and i have seen very few results.

    i am 6' 2" i weight in at 231lbs. i have a gut that i HATE. i went from a semi active job, to a desk job, so its harder to burn as many calories, and harder to eat right as there is shit food all over the office.

    he got me stated on this 12,10,8,6 up the weight each time regime.

    routines are as follows- (sorry, dont know each name)

    chest day-

    2 different ab machines, one lifts legs, wihle you crunch, the other just bends down
    bench-
    i start with 35lbs on each side, do a rep of 12,
    up it to 45 on each side, do 10 reps
    up it to 55 on each side, do 8 reps
    up it to 60 on each side, do 6 reps

    incline bench with free weights,
    35lbs 12 times
    40lbs 10 times
    45lbs 8 times
    50lbs 6 times

    go to i think its the butterfly machine- (sit with chest towards machine, arms close together, move arms out left and right until its even with my body.
    start with 90lbs 12 times
    100lbs 10 times
    110lbs 8 times
    130lbs 6 times

    Military press-
    35lbs 12 times
    40lbs 10 times
    45lbs 8 times
    50lbs 6 times (if i can get to that point, if arms arent too tired)

    go back to butterfly machine (back towards machine, taking arms from straigh out to sides, to infront of me.
    110lbs 12 times
    120lbs 10 times
    130lbs 8 times
    150lbs 6 times




    next day is arm, shoulder back

    Abs- same as above

    Back machine- (sit with chest towards machine, pull straight back)
    start with 100lbs 12 times
    110 10 times
    120 8 times
    130 6 times


    Pulldown machine, Close grip (pull straight down from above)
    90lbs 12 times
    100 10 times
    110 8 times
    130 6 times

    tricepts-
    cable machine, pull down with arms infront of me, then do a set with my back to the machine, pulling the cable from above my head to infront of body
    70lbs 12 times
    80 10 times
    90 8 times
    100 6 times


    bicepts-
    i think it was called the 7 7 7 workout.
    start out iwht 45lb bar elbows to my side, arms straight out do 7 from there up to chin. then do 7 from center down to legs, then do 7 whole motion. bottom to top (legs to chin)

    bicept bench-
    45lbs 12 times
    70lbs 10 times
    90lbs 8 times
    115lbs 6 times


    ill post the leg setup later tonight or toomrrow.

    i just think that my body is used to those work outs. i go to the gym by myself, so i dont have a spotter to go with more weight, and i dont take any supplements.

    so what im asking, is there anyone that can write a better workout regime? can anyone recoment supplements to me? im just tired of having this damn gut!

    flame away for being a fatty!
     
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    also, these 3 are the only ones i do.
    i try to go mon. tue, thur, fri. but sometimes only make it 3 times a week.
    im starting to watch what i eat, so that will help as well. but i just cahnge it up between
    chest
    arms
    legs
    i need a better program!
     
  3. Captain Amazing

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    read stickies ftw!
     
  4. LocTite98

    LocTite98 Chillin'

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    dude man, there is a seperate sub forum called "Training Logs" that have numerous amounts of information. You should try there. If u hate that gut, u should start a clean diet.
     
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    diet is about 85% of the game, start reading and learn to cook.
     
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    Ceaze https://hearthis.at/DoYouEvenUplift Moderator

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    well your routine sucks and your diet sucks....read the stickies
     
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    i read through the stickies, but i was on a long call at the same time. ill re-read. there was alot of info, but it was if you want this supp. go here. if you want this, go there. i dont know wtf i need
     
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    dont worry about supps
     
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    Ceaze https://hearthis.at/DoYouEvenUplift Moderator

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    :ugh:

    This one has a routine and diet all laid out for you, how complicated is that?

    http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=2920566
     
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    ya, i just re-read that one. going to the store tonight!
     
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    yessir, listen to this man
     
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    if you don't lose weight, your not going to lose the gut very easily.

    Start on a calorie deficit diet
     
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    started.

    the woman is at the store now getting the groceries from the list
     
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    how many calories are you aiming for? What are you using to log your calories?
     
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    CANT HAVE A WOMAN IF YOURE ACTUALLY TRYING TO ACHIEVE ANYTHING AND BECOME AN IFBB PRO ONE DAY SO PLEASE DONT HUMOR US WITH THAT GF/WIFEY GARBAGE. YOU ARE IN THE WRONG FORUM HAVING ONE OF THOSE AROUND.

    WE HAVE CUM DEPOSITORIES AROUND HERE, VARIOUS ONES, THEY DONT TALK OR DO ANYTHING BUT ACT AS DUMPSTERS FOR OUR ENANTHATE LOADS.
     
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    energie I like to place an order.. the name? Situation the

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    what he said
     
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    i looked at an online calorie calculator, and it says i need to consume 2887 calories a day. im aiming for 2300, or less. i dont have anything to log it yet. what would you recomend using?

    went to the gym tonight using the thursday routine. it was definately nice doing something different, but it made me realize how big of a pussy i am!
     
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    PorscheRacer You see this? It means not welcome

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    Pen and paper, it isn't hard to wright down what your eating and the calories/protein/fat/carbs.
     
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    www.fitday.com
     
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    My av is so small you can't see it!
    If i was you, i would follow pur's (the link above) diet closely. As far as i can remember it is about the calorie amount you are looking to be at. Even if it is in the 2500-3000 range, i would expect to see much recomposition simply from changing your eating habits so drastically.
     
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    +1 for Pur's routine/diet

    and :bowrofl: at enanthate loads
     
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    im not used to eating so much, but its healthy!!!!! thanks for the tips fellas
     
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  24. Marix

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    As others have said, diet is the key.

    Your workout routine isn't great but the diet is really where success will come from.

    Purs sticky thread routine is find for you and just adjust his food amounts until you have the amount of calories which are right for you. Your guesstimate of 2300kcal is probably about right.
     
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    start doing cardio.
     
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