GUN Identity of 7.62x54r surplus

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  1. Cannondale

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    Ok, so I have this tin that I bought at a gun show earlier, but I cannot for the life of me, find the description of the cryllic letters on the box. I will not open the box to check. The sign at the show said Bulgarian, and I don't remember the rest. The main thing that worries me, is that there is a cryllic letter that looks like "III" which I remember being a designation for machinegun ammo for certain types. I don't want to open this stuff and find out I bought machine gun ammo, and lose all of it's value because it is now open. Does anyone have a link to the description of the information on these soldered tin boxes? I would really appreciate it. :)
     
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    pics of the crate could help ID it. I've shot the shit meant for MG's out of mosins fine wouldnt worry about that unless its linked ammo in which case ill buy it :o
     
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    This is a picture of it, the writing doesn't look like any of the pictures of Bulgarian heavy or light ball I have seen. It also has a leather handle on the case, which I also haven't seen in any other pictures.

    Makes me wish I could read this stuff.
     
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    whoa, never seen anything that looked like that before. If it had turned out to be hungarian, I could have helped.


    Also, MG ammo, unlike in 8mm, is safe to shoot in *most* rifles in x54. The MG stuff is just heavier, so in a mosin, it should be just fine to shoot. Most people really don't worry about it, and get whatever is cheaper.
     
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    hmm
    Well, I think I have decyphered the first row. It's "7.62 Light brass case"

    The second row, the only thing I can find, says it's an armor piercing incendiary round. That is a little weird.

    http://www.geocities.com/russianammo/russabb.jpg

    The 21 on there is a factory code from Poland when it comes to headstamps on rounds, not sure if that's that it means here or not.

    There is a character on there that looks like "III" which means either Machine gun, or canister shot shell. I'm almost tempted to opening this box up, just to see WTF it actually is.
     
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    Apparently I can't use Yahoo email addresses there....
     
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    weird, if it is light ball, then it shouldn't be MG....
     
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    Well, I opened the tin up. I decided I wouldn't really know what it was till I did.

    The rounds are wrapped in little paper satchels, tied with string. 10 rounds per sachel on black stripper clips. I pulled a bullet and found extruded powder, 52 grains of it. The bullet weight is 147.8 grains. The bullet is attracted to metal, and has no phosphorus or bands on the tip. The cases are brass, with berdan primers. The headstamp has a star at the "12" position, a 3 at the "3" position, 48 at the "6" position, and B at the "9" position.
     
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    perfectly safe to shoot.
     
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    That's good. Well I will be throwing a few out the barrel next time I have the opportunity.
     
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    yeah, 147 grain is light ball
     

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