GUN I was talking to a LEO/Military instructor. Is this true? VS. Cheaper 5.56

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  1. BigBadJohn

    BigBadJohn Pay-back time OT Supporter

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    I talk to this guy every now and then when he comes into work.
    I was updating him on my new AR and was telling him how happy I was with it.

    We then get on the subject of the military using 5.56. He then tells me that they were thinking about using Bullpups someday instead of M16's and that they were thinking about going back to 7.62.

    Anyone hear about this?
    Maybe we can get .223 cheaper in the future :x:

    Then again maybe hes telling me about some idea the military has just been tossing around. :dunno:
     
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  2. Gai

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    Hard to say since "Govt" is a broad term. Did he mean the US military, or Federal agencies? The only major talk of replacing the 5.56 has been in the military.
     
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    BigBadJohn Pay-back time OT Supporter

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    Yes. I meant the military
     
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    there has been talks, but nothing solid.

    And there's no change in the 5.56 yet.
     
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    I know a lot of militaries around the world are switching to bullpup designs. I guess it makes sense :dunno:
     
  6. Want2race

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    well whats a downside?

    It gives you longer barrel with less exposure.. Seems like a win to me
     
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    I keep hearing complaints about the 5.56 round from those in the armed forces, but does anyone know if the government has actually done anything to test/research the claims of it being insufficient?
     
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    :werd: I don't see any downside besides costing money to replace all the current weapons. I'm all for it, especially if it lowers prices on 5.56 :hs:
     
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    BigBadJohn Pay-back time OT Supporter

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    Not only will it lower 5.56 prices, but we will have an assload of US Made ammo on our hands
     
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    striker754 Chillin

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    I think I'll pass on 50,000 psi right next to my face.
     
  11. no7fish

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    not to mention a ton of surplus weapons.... :bigthumb:

    but yeah, I have heard that in the desert, at distances, the little round is not doing the job at times. I don't know how often or how much it's not doing but I have heard tell.
     
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    Your cheek and eyes are so close to it, once it kb's you are SOL
     
  13. striker754

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    probably not. the us military usually destroys weapons instead of transferring them or their parts to the civilian sector. if you disagree, where are all the WW2 weapons? vietnam? korea? only exception is CMP
     
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    Unfortunatly true.
     
  15. Artyboy

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    They're destroying M16 receivers but apparently they're selling off the uppers.

    http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ARR115-47462-1888.html
     
  16. striker754

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    maybe they have a different policy for brand new stuff vs used, but the stats dont lie. most of these guns are no where to be found. ar15s are a dime a dozen
     
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    just need a diff gun..

    A tavor can be setup left or right handed in terms of controls and ejection!
     
  19. Artyboy

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    When I can build an AR-15 for the same price as an AK or less then I'll consider them a dime a dozen.
     
  20. striker754

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    do you know what dime a dozen means? common and easy to get/find. ar15s are common. and they are easy to find.

    besides we are talking about us govt surplus. m16 uppers are dime a dozen compared to the weapons from the eras i listed
     
  21. BigBadJohn

    BigBadJohn Pay-back time OT Supporter

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    Only M16 parts kits Ive ever really seen were on Sarco.com
    and they were from 30+ years ago
     
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    RealFastV6 OMFGh4x0rzZ!!111

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    I've never picked up a bullpup with a trigger that I liked. It's like having a Glock trigger in a rifle but worse. Inherent in the bullpup design.
     
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    I wasn't aware that the US govt used these weapons.
     
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    CDNN has/had usgi uppers cheap but they were 20+ year old A1's.
     

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