GUN I want to start reloading.

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  1. The Cable Guy

    The Cable Guy New Member

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    Something to pass the time, doesn't have to be super extensive, maybe up to 500rds a week or so. Single stage okay? besides that, that else would I need? A tumbler? I'll be loading .223.

    Do I need a scale, sizer, what else? FUCK.
     
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    500 rounds a week calls for progressive easily.


    (omgz look what soy posted)
     
  3. There's a lot you need, especially for rifle.

    Dies
    Tumbler
    Press
    Scale
    Priming system
    Calipers
    Cartridge gauge is a good idea
    Case lube
    Powder dispenser
    Case trimmer

    That'll get you started towards making bulk ammo.
     
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    With prepared brass, aka, sized, primed, trimmed... I load about 200 rounds in three hours on a single stage, with crimping.

    I personally prefer to had a progressive press now, but i thought learning on a single stage was the right choice.
     
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    How much will all this run me? Does not have to be top of the line, just starter equipment.
     
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    How do you meter and charge? Do you do all 200 at once or in batches? I feel like I'm a little faster than that using dippers but I've never really put a clock to it :big grin:

    500 rounds a week would be like taking up a part time job :rofl:


    As far as pricing, midwayusa.com have fun.
     
  8. LancerV

    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    Fixed it for you
     
  9. ChipOnShoulder

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    I meter and charge using a RCBS powder thrower. I bought the $300 RCBS rock chucker kit.

    I charge in batches of 100 and then seat the bullets. I measure the powder thrower every 10 rounds to be sure everything is going well. A powder baffle helped increase consistency significantly.

    Reloading is pretty much a part time job for me. I'm time rich, money poor.
     
  10. I'd budget at least $400 for the stuff, though you'd likely spend more.
     
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    [DWI] Master of Nothing

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    before you going and buying all the equipment all at once and get completely setup, I'd make sure you can get the components you need, brass is easy (whatever you fire and pickup at the range), bullets can be found from time to time, powder still has some availability, but primers . . . .
     
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    fatmoocow bored OT Supporter

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    think very carefully about reloading .223

    In fact, just don't do it. Semiauto rifle cartridges are just not worth it. 1 case failure can mean losing an eye or face. Some brass will go 5-6 reloads and some will go 1. There's a huge thread on this over at arfcom, probably several.
     
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    What is this nonsense now?
     
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    fatmoocow bored OT Supporter

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    you fuckers are going to make me look it up :mad:


    http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=440162

    http://www.fulton-armory.com/ReloadingThoughts.htm


    cliffs is that in a semi auto rifle your risk of catastrophic failure during an out of battery firing is much higher. The risk of out of battery firing is much higher with reloads and with semi autos (brass/primers/feed-ramps/fast moving parts, etc)
     
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    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    Has anyone actually lost an eye from a blown up AR-15 etc? 50k psi may sound alot until you're dealing with metal
     
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    I might be missing it but I don't see anything beyond a bunch of anecdotes about personal fuck ups, nothing that is due to it being a rifle. Reloading, whether for a handgun or rifle, means you take responsibility for your safety into your own hands more than with commercial ammo. If you aren't ready for that sort of commitment then no you shouldn't reload but it doesn't indicate that rifle reloads are inherently dangerous.
     
  18. :werd:

    A couple of anecdotes out of the countless people that reload is pretty much meaningless. There's just a bunch of personal opinion presented as "fact" in that thread. Some of the things listed as "facts" there aren't even complete sentences. And the one about the primers has nothing to do with rifle reloading specifically, nor does it mention what the idiot did to make all the primers go off.
     
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    I shoot and load a lot of 223. I just ran a batch of 2000 75gr prvi hpbt w/ 24gr AA2520. Right now with reduced shooting because of primer situation is about a 2 month supply.

    First if learning to reload it is more difficult to learn loading a necked rifle round. Strait wall pistol would be my recomendation for a new reloader. Loading rifle just has so many steps.

    If your running a single stage I don't see how your going to be doing a lot of shooting but my idea of a lot of shooting is different then others. Of course if your buying new primed brass it would be easier and faster but then you almost might as well be buying loaded ammo as far as price is concerned (though you could make superior ammo).

    As far as cheap there is not cheap in a rifle reloading set up if your doing the entire process. You can get the simplest of stuff and still be in the $400 - $500 range.

    Of course a good set up is easily 2K
     
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    that. ^^
     
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    LOL LOOK AT ALL THESE STORIES I HEARD SOMEONES FRIEND TELL! THEY KNOW A GUY THAT KNEW A GUY THAT BLEW OFF HIS ARM!
     
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    dillon 1050 or bust
     
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    hrum...I've been wondering about this for a while....someone post a "list" of equipment you will need to start :x:
     
  24. I did, post #3 here. If you want specific recommendations, you'll have to tell us what cartridge you want to load, what volume of reloading you want to do, what type of ammo you want (match ammo, plinking ammo, etc...) and what your budget is.
     
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    fatmoocow bored OT Supporter

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    The point of all this is that you're chances of a mega blowout are X with factory ammo say 1/100,000. You're chances of a mega blowout with reloaded ammo may be 100 times that simply because you're using reloaded brass. You need to be aware of this.

    This assumes you're intelligent, paying attention, and don't make mistakes. Add being a retard into the equation (which most people are) and your chances are even worse.

    What's the first question everyone asks when you see a gun in 10 pieces? Reload?
     

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