GUN I want an M1 Garand.

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  1. Fire Sauce

    Fire Sauce New Member

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    .30-06 or .308? :noes:
     
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    7 First comes smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire.

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    .30-06, keep it classic.
     
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    I talked to a couple guy's at the range I belong to and they both said the .308 has more feeding issues than the .30-06.

    Mine hasn't really had any feeding issues except the one casing that gut stuck in the chamber. Mine also needs the trigger housing fitted to the rifle still. Need to try to take care of that this next week.

    I'd keep it .30-06 but the .308 is more accurate for the long range shots.
     
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    Clingman Clingman runs Bartertown.

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    .30-06 for sure.

    And how is .308 more accurate than .30-06? I've never heard that before.
    I know the US went to .308 for nato conformity and the shorter cartridge of the the .308 is better suited for modern automatic weapons.
     
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    Tornado6 When the wind set down in funnel form and pulled y

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    My Dad's M1 (.30-06) is one of my all time favorite guns to shoot. :cool:
     
  8. Fire Sauce

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    I'm looking at the SA M1, anyone got any other/better/cheaper makers?
     
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    Goat That crack is really moreish

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    What ways would you suggest the .30-06 be improved to make it more of a 'man stopper'? I'm curious as I don't really see how it can be. Not that it's a bad caliber by any means, but that .308 has the advantage of allowing the use of a shorter action, and produces less recoil while still maintaining almost identical ballistics with equal loads. The '06 does have the means when it comes to ballistics, but from a tactical stance the .308 is more ideal. Besides, Ackley already improved the .30-06 ballistics :o
     
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    The .30-06 shows its mettle using heavier bullets at longer ranges (although it drops fast after 1000 yards)

    Fit it with a lighter bullet (somethign that expands) and seat it over a faster burning powder. That longer case (12mm to be exact) and I'd bet we see .30-06 performance approaching .338mag range.
    It has the potential to be a very destructive cartridge. Now, getting back to reality, the .308 (7.62x51) is shorter and works in a huge number of rifles. There is no reason to chamber a new weapon in 7.62x63 (.30-06) simply to gain a few dozen yards or a bit more energy from the muzzle.
    7.62x51 is the standard battle cartridge for good reason. It works well, its fast , its powerful and its cheap. NATO uses it, so we are guaranteed a cheap supply of surplus.
    Sounds like a winner to me.

    if we need ot go farther, .338 Lapua or .50BMG handles any target at that range without a problem.
    .30-06 is useful for a huge number of things. Fighting wars has moved to the back of the list.
     
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    Goat That crack is really moreish

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    You could load it with a lighter 120-125grn bullet, but you could still do the exact same thing with a .308, which still only falls about 100fps or so behind a .30-06 in most cases. So in reality, there's no point to any of it other than shits and giggles.
     
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    Right, because faster burn rate always equals more velocity :hsugh: And wouldn't you be approaching .300WM levels, not .338? That would be apples to oranges.
     
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    Yep, there really isn't a point to it.

    I think the .30-06 could stomach more powder and show off a bit more. Not that its required or anything. You could always just go to a more powerful cartridge.
    It would be fun as long as you didn't blow up a rifle that was worth too much money.

    Chamber something cheap in .30-06 and see what happens.
     
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    .30-06
     
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    .30-06, a lot cheaper to buy the gun. I got one built in 1954 for only $500.

    .308 ammo is cheaper, but the savings on the gun will make up for it.
     
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