I suck at running! Need advice...

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  1. jared_IRL

    jared_IRL OT Supporter

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    So i'm at 215 @ ~15%, 6'.

    I'm trying to lose the belly I have left before my honeymoon.

    I can play ice hockey all day, ride a bike forever, and swim like a fish, but I suck ass at running.

    Today I tried a mile and a half loop, only actually ran a mile, and that was in sections with walking in between... It was horrible..

    I know I need new shoes, because the ones i'm using now are year old NB 574's (walking/casual shoes)...

    But does anyone have any other tips? I could use some help...

    Things like how often I should run to build my endurance, and any tips to get better faster...

    thanks
     
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    Ceaze https://hearthis.at/DoYouEvenUplift Moderator

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    how many weeks do you have
     
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    kronik85 New Member

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    i'd rather run 200s and 400s than jog all afternoon. but then again i'm also a sprinter so....
     
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    less then 3 I am guessing
     
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    Gorilla Cardio FTW
     
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    Why not just play more hockey, ride a bike more or swim more?
     
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    Running isn't going to do anything more for you than biking will. Get yourself to a gym and do cardio there, go ride your bike. Just up your activity level and start watching your calories.

    Bad news is that's the last fat to go, in many cases.
     
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    JustBlazin Ironic Punishment

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    running just takes time, considering you seem to be in decent shape cardio-wise, i bet next you go you'll be able to double what you did the first time. i find running (non-competetively) to be at the least 75% mental
     
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    very true....and some people just hold it there....I've got a bud who will get striations and veins all over his body while still having a small gut, Gorilla Cardio a la Ronnie Coleman was the only thing that worked for him
     
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    oh for example, i used to run quite a bit, but i stopped over the fall and winter. i tried going out a few weeks ago and could barely run 2kms, i went back out and gave it a shot a week later and ran 7kms with ease
     
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    that mentions machines specifically, what about running different tempos/sprints and such. same catechlomine deficit seen?
     
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    Yes, it's the same. If you run the same route at the same pace 3 days a week on a regular basis then you'll see very little progress, you need to mix things up. If you want to decrease your run time, there are two crucial things that you must do. Run longer distances, if you run 5 miles - even at a slow pace, then running 1 mile very quickly will be NOTHING to you. Mix in some speed days on a track where you sprint the straights and jog the curves for 45 minutes and you'll be good to go. No matter what though, people who are 215 pounds even if they're all muslce with a low bf% just simply don't run marathons and aren't distance runners.
     
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    Still no mention of a diet anywhere in here?

    Have you modified your eating habits?
     
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    hiit that shit
     
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    Its easier to slack off on a bike, you end up coasting if you get tired. If you get tired running you stop moving.
     
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    You'll most likely be able to build your endurance up within a month or two if you stay consistant with your running. I'd say about 3 to 4 times a week with your jogs for distance once a week and the others for time.
    ex-
    week1
    Monday- 15min
    Weds- 20min
    Thurs- 15min
    Saturday- 3 miles (or 2miles if you're intimidated by the number)

    week2-
    Monday- 20min
    Weds- 30min
    Thurs- 20min
    Saturday- 4 miles

    Do you have a specific amount of miles you're wanting to do per day or week?

    Try doing a 5/1 method. This is good for a lot of beginner runners..etc. It's where you jog for 5min and walk for 1 the whole way.

    Plus when you're running if you're not able to carry on a conversation and you start to breathe too hard then you need to slow down b/c you're running too fast.

    And yes, get new shoes.

    What kind of surface are you jogging on?

    If you have any "specific" questions ask away.

    Oh and stretch like the night before if you're doing morning jogs. It's not always good to do too much stretching right before you jog.
    Stretch afterwards very good as well. :)

    btw how's your diet?
     
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    not really, there's always speed walking
     
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    I did my first 2 half marathons at 220lbs..... :o The last one I know I was at about 43% bf :eek3:

    Endurance/stamina cannot always be measured by a persons size.

    too much muscle is actually harder when attempting to run longer distances. This is why I personally have to lift lower weights during training season.
     
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    A lot of people say that, but I disagree. If you're able to carry on a regular conversation, then you're not running fast enough and you're not pushing yourself hard enough. I wouldn't be running a mile in 5:47 if I stuck to that age old rule of thumb which does nothing but prohibit someones progress.

    The whole "you should run at a pace where you can carry on a conversation" is almost the equivelant of all the weight loss myths such as "do low weight and high reps to get tone" or "turn fat into muscle" and things like that - it's a load of crap. If you can run faster, then run faster.
     
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    damn :eek3:
     
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    It's a true statment. I've been training for like 6yrs, help asst. coach half marathoners in my running group..etc(I would hope I know what I'm talking about) If you're sprinting..etc then of course you can't carry on a conversation, but with distance running and building up your endurance levels this is VERY important to keep in mind.

    How long can you keep up that 5:47 pace? I'm talking more than 3 miles here, not 1 or 2 miles.

    Apparently I have no clue what your goals of running is so I think we're talking about two completely different things.
     
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    My goal is 3 miles in 18 minutes, a perfect score on the running portion of the USMC physical fitness test. I can already run 2 miles in under 2 minutes and I expect with some more training, i'll be at 18:00 in 3 miles in a few weeks.
     
  25. Drifter87

    Drifter87 Yippi-kay-ay, Motherfucker

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    To get the best improvements in running (what my coach always told me), run for 30mins at a confy pace for yourself.

    I did that for 3 weeks (3-4x a week), at the start of the 4th week I ran 6+miles at a 8min pace and felt like I could do another round if it wasn't for my knee pain.
     
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