MMA I really, really, really wanted....... *spoilers*

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  1. Exiled

    Exiled New Member

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    [But damnit, the other dude like gave up or gassed or something.. he was doing good!]
     
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  2. checkii

    checkii ฝรั่งตาน้ำข้าว

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    So here's my issue with this fight:


    Why when Joe has Kenny on his back in round one and eats vicious illegal elbows (could rogan have favored Florian anymore?) did Herb Dean stand them up? I would think eating an illegal blow would cause a break and a restart from the same position, why penalize the person who received the illegal blow and reward the perp?

    I dont see why the fight was stopped. Its all preference on how you like a fight to be reff'd, but florian was landing virtually nothing, Lauzon WAS intelligently defending himself, I see this as the exact same as someone laying in guard like a wet blanket and just punching ineffective punches until the ref stops it. Why stop it if the fighter is not taking damage and is defending himself? Not being able to move into a better position is not a reason to stop a fight.
     
  3. whup

    whup I wish you had children and.. so that I could step

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    Yeah when I was watching I was thinking, I bet the ref's going to stop this even though Lauzon is defending himself and isn't taking any damage. Was only a matter of time I think. I look forward to seeing what Lauzon has to say about the fight.
     
  4. 2ofdem

    2ofdem OT Supporter

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    I really, really, really didnt want to be spoiled by reading a thread topic either but hey sometimes we dont get what we want.
     
  5. Bausk

    Bausk New Member

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    Lauzon didn't complain. He was dead tired on the bottom and wasn't doing anything other than covering. Florian was getting some hard shots in in between his guard.
     
  6. checkii

    checkii ฝรั่งตาน้ำข้าว

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    did you see his face after the fight, there wasnt a mark on it.
     
  7. teep

    teep New Member

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    why is there so much kenny hate? I still don't really get it
     
  8. TCMS

    TCMS OT Supporter

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    This should be the last time the UFC makes a stupid move and has an event at a place like Denver. That altitude was such a stupid thing to force these guys to deal with.
     
  9. kilian

    kilian You've got quite a treasure there in that Horadric OT Supporter

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    I thought it was a little off.
    Hey ultimate fight night chumps, since you're not on PPV, you're going to denver! enjoy breathing!
     
  10. checkii

    checkii ฝรั่งตาน้ำข้าว

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    unjustified title shot

    talks way too much shit about being the best ever when he hasnt accomplished much, brags about finishing people who injure themselves durign a fight.

    I just dont see any modesty or personality, at least rmapage is funny, florian just seems like a cocky dick.

    I agree. and I got sick of Rogan talking about it.
     
  11. Ricey McRicerton

    Ricey McRicerton New Member

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    Another Florian disliker here.


    He's a cocky dickbag who does nothing but try to talk shit about how he's the greatest and he got robbed and this and that. Fuck you Kenflo.
     
  12. Kevin

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    checking in, hate florian.

    i think its his nickname. ken flo. :ugh:
     
  13. konrad109

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    Not a big florian fan either.
     
  14. CrazyInteg

    CrazyInteg Honda-Acura.net OG

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    lol try road tripping out to Denver to see drag racing. I'll never do that again. The cars were at least a second slower.
     
  15. phuree

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    I like kenflo
     
  16. GreatDeceiver

    GreatDeceiver OT Supporter

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    Meh there was too much time in the round to let Florian sit atop Lauzon and continue beating on him. Sure, probably 70% of the punches landed on his arms but Joe wasn't getting out from that anytime soon so I have no problem with the stop. Lauzon looked like he knew the stop was going to happen and fully accepted it when it was over.

    And I hate Florian too, but I picked him to win this and was wishing to be proven wrong the whole time. Sucks.
     
  17. Maestro Nobones

    Maestro Nobones Great Job! - GLAD DADS CREW

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    I could go either way with kenny. I don't hate him but at the same time don't think he's near the top of my favorite fighters list.
     
  18. TigreTek

    TigreTek omega member OT Supporter

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    you know what i wanted? for someone to pay attention to the current spoiler rule.


    just an idea. :hsughno:
     
  19. f-g

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    common courtesy, not rule :o
     
  20. Exiled

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    :slap:
     
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    That is what I was thinking. To me, "intelligently defending yourself" means making a conscious and reasonable effort to defend yourself when you are in a bad position. Considering he was STUCK in the mount, the best defense was to try and use his arms to keep Kenny from landing solid blows to his head, which he was doing a pretty good job of. I didn't know that not being able to get out of a position is the same as not intelligently defending yourself, and thus is a valid reason to stop a fight??
     
  22. Exiled

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    Yeah I knew herb was going to step in.. but lauzon was in no danger.. he couldn't get out of mount.. sure.. but kenny was throwing punches like a girl just to try to force herb to step in..

    Herb knew they weren't hurting him but lauzon was gassed, not doing anything to improve his position..

    That was an odd situation to ref.. imo I would've said "Kenny do something or im doing to stand you up"

    Because honestly, he wasnt doing anything from mount besides throwing girl punches that were COMPLETELY blocked.
     
  23. Bausk

    Bausk New Member

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    That's true. Just being mounted is not a submission.
     
  24. Khaaz

    Khaaz New Member

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    Yeah i agree, Joe wasn't taking much damage but he couldnt get out of that position and I think if he really wanted to keep fighting he woulda told the ref hes fine or disagreed with the stoppage or would've done/said somethin to let people know hes fine. After herb stopped it he looked relieved it was over.

    Anyways Joe's a great fighter and hes just gettin started.

    Oh yeah, and i dont like Florian either. I hope BJ beats the shit out of him.
     
  25. jmx2323

    jmx2323 OT Supporter

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    in for seeing florian choked out by BJ
     

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