It just makes my blood pressure go up. They are just aggressively ignorant Example of what I'm dealing with on a dsm forum. "In fact I see that none of you mention Aikido in your background. If you ever want to boost your defensive techniques It's definately worth looking into. The most basic and elemental techniques are quite effective and as you grow into more advanced techniques you will learn ways to reverse ever more diverse situations. " and this is in response to talking about the Human Weapon on the history channel. He wants a master of kung-fu(what he studies and teaches) to be with the 2 hosts to fight. "Yep, thats what I want. Someone that is known to be a lethal martial artist taking on the masters they come across. This way you can see if the guys they are learning from every week are for real or not and if their styles actually work (not to mention I would like to see some good fights)." Because we all know Kung fu whips some ass " Tae Kwon Do not practical? From what I remember It was pretty straight forward and will toughen you up." And this is my favorite in response to a post I made. "Yea we get a lot of MMA guys in our dojo most of them big muscular ex-Marine law enforcement kind of guys. I love It when they ask sensei (who is not muscular and is in fact quite small) "what if I do this move here?..." and they are on their face with their wrist and arm ligaments fully extended and making that "please don't twist any further" face before he can say "what if.." Yea you don't see Aikido in the cage, you can't format it for the cage. And when your watered down grappling training stops working for you go ahead and hit up the TMA Jujitsu school because that's where It all came from anyway. They'll be glad make it lethal for you if you'd like." I give up. They won't listen to reason. I'm really not being inflamatory towards the TMA's either, this is a response that I made. " Originally Posted by TEC So MMA training is better than any other form of martial arts? Not at all, it depends on what you want to get out of it. MMA isn't going to offer any history or tradition. You aren't going to learn how to use weapons or defend against them. It isn't going to teach the discipline and structure inherent to TMA's. MMA is something that many people wouldn't enjoy. Its very hard, very intense, and its goal is very focused. People that aren't looking to be near as focused on the actual fighting are better served to do something that they enjoy more. I have mad respect for a master in any art. But I understand that it is a /ART/. Someone that is very skilled at Kung-fu or other TMAs are fun to watch, to see the fluidity of the movements. Or when you watch Tae Kwon Do masters watching the aerial acrobatics. But when pure effectiveness is a fight gets brought up, I will always side with the pure combat arts(BJJ, wrestling, boxing and kickboxing(both western and Thai boxing)). Of all the TMA's I would pick Judo as the most effective. Its been proven by many people(Karo, Yoshida, Nakumura, Nastula, and recently Manny) to be very effective in a pure combat situation. Those judoka's are sick. And I'm finding that many judo schools that are geared towards actual combat are integrating more BJJ into their grappling than traditional jiu jitsu. I hope that cleared up how I feel. I don't hate TMA's. I don't disrespect them. But for pure combat I feel that MMA is the best. And I've seen both sides of it. I practiced Tae Kwon Do for 7 years. I taught it and competed actively in it. It was a waste of time. Had I been doing Thai boxing for that time I would be much further in my MMA career.