I HATE Visual Studio .NET.

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  1. deusexaethera

    deusexaethera OT Supporter

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    Especially when it comes to form design. Textboxes and labels and buttons just resize themselves without asking when I change the size of their containers! This is a "feature"? No! This is "bullshit". I know exactly what I want the form controls to do, and I know exactly how to make them do it. I don't want them making their own decisions and making a mess of my work-in-progress.

    VB6's form designer had it right. They just couldn't leave good enough alone, could they?
     
  2. SLED

    SLED build an idiot proof device and someone else will

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    works fine for me. i think the majority of people prefer the feature. Pretty easy just to tell one textbox not to anchor, then just copy/paste that as many time as you need.

    I can't even imagine having to go back to vb6 the language, or the shoddy IDE
     
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    vb6 form designer was shit. vb.net got it right. Make sure you've installed the service pack, it does have a few ui fixes for some "anomalies"
     
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    I have not liked any IDE's since borland C++ 5.5 and VB 5.0 :mamoru: . Then again i program with a text editor and a form management system for midrange/mainframes, so i am way out of the visual programing loop.
     
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    hey numnuts, is there any way i can emulate a as400 os390 box? I basically have an app that really needs to run on a z-series mini but I don't have one to dev on... any ideas?
     
  6. deusexaethera

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    Heh...for a second I thought you were insulting the guy.

    Anyway, VB6's form designer doesn't make assumptions about what I want it to do, and VS.NET's form designer does -- therefore, VB6's form designer is better. If Microsoft had had the good sense to make the anchoring feature toggleable through a checkbox in the IDE environment settings, instead of making me change every single goddamned control on every form in every project manually, then it would suck a bit less than it does.
     
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    99% of vb6 apps LOOK like vb6 apps. And that's a bad thing. VS.Net makes assumptions that are valid in 99% of situations to match 99% of mainstream apps.

    You are uncomforable with this because you had poor UI design to begin with.

    For the rest of us, it's a gift from Heaven.
     
  8. deusexaethera

    deusexaethera OT Supporter

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    Either I had poor UI design to begin with, or I know how to align controls mathematically so they don't look like shit on the form, and I have a keen eye for producing forms with a consistent appearance.

    It's only a single example, I know, but the one app that I wrote recently that I posted screenshots of on this forum elicited the same comment several times: "Nice app. What language is it written in?" I'll go ahead and take that as evidence that my apps fall into the 1% that aren't obviously created in VB6.
     
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    shrug vb6 yeah was shitty.....u think .net is bad try VS 2005... what i gotta work with....
     
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    I like VS2k5. very nice ide.
     
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    post a pic of it again, please. My memory seems to recall it having a non-standard appearance more like a skinned app -- so no that would not be a good example.
     
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    VS2008 will be nice from the reports I'm hearing from friends that were in Orlando for Microsoft tech thing(the name escapes me at this moment)
     
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    Penguin Man Protect Your Digital Liberties

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    Writing GUIs just sucks in general.
     

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