I has a UDM

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  1. Scottwax

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    ....plus a few of the Ultima product line...the wash, tire/trim dressing and the sealant (which is wipe on and done like Opti-Seal).

    Reviews plus a comparison of the UDM to the PC (polishing ability) as quickly as I can get to it. :)


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    sweet....intitial thoughts just holding it in your hand?
     
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    and i'm not being :naughty:

















    or am i :naughty:
     
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    I put on a polishing pad, and ran the UDM at 6 over my hand. It doesn't bog down near as easily as the PC and it definitely made the palm of my hand hot.
     
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    i think i remember reading it was a little more powerful.
     
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    Can't wait to hear your thoughts....
     
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    I should have bought a PC, I got a bunch of Werkstatt stuff in the mail today and don't feel that I can use it to its full potential :hs:
     
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    The UDM makes my arm and hand numb after using it! I like it but I find myself going back to the Cyclo over and over.

    I really want to hear about the Ultima line.
     
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    does the plastic head cover vibrate like hell? like the PC?
     
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    Nope. Less shrill sound too.

    I used it today with a Swirlbuster orange cutting pad on a metallic green BMW. It definitely removes paint transfers faster than the PC but that may be because I generally use the 7.5" LC pads on my PC and the Swirlbuster is a 6" pad...or it could be that the UDM flat has more power. Crank it up to 6, bear down and it keeps spinning at pressure than stops the PC from spinning.
     
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    swirlbuster, eh? link?
     
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    so that's what that pad was. how does it compare to CCS pads? also, what kind of comparison do you make between UDM and Cyclo?
     
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    I tried bigger backing plates and it makes the UDM vibrate like mad.

    With the supplied backing plate and 5 inch CCS pads it works very well. I just dont have the patience to work on getting out defects with it so I stick to the rotary with a 5 inch backing plate and 5 inch CCS pads and its worked out great, especially with my new Menzerna polishes 106FF and SIP. SIP had a heck of a learning curve.

    Ultima PPP also works nice on getting out defects with the UDM and a 5 inch CCS orange pad.

    UPGP IMO applies even easier than OS and shines better and supposedly lasts longer. The thing that sucks is waiting 24 hours between coats. Im normally a Zaino guy and its been an adjustment. The shine is harder I will say that. I have 3 coats on right now and the Maxima just glows.

    Im curious to see what you think of the tire and trim product, thats the one I been holding back on but the one Im most curious to try out.
     
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    This is some awesome info here. Thanks!

    Do you find yourself using 106ff more than anyother polish?
    Have you found a way to keep the dust down?
     
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    Paulie Walnuts Im an agent of chaos

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    Judging our past if you are serious I will answer.


    Yes I have pretty much given away all other polishes besides the 106FF. It does not remove a ton of defects IMO but when paired with SIP there is not much the combo cannot handle. 106FF does not really dust much for me at all. Nothing that a quick wipe of a MF cannot take care of.

    SIP on the other hand is very moody. If you use it obviously disregard my post. You have to really keep the pad clean as it will gum up quickly. It is very fussy in the sun and humidity. It also does not work the best with the Orange pads. Everyone on Autopia says that you should use the Green or Yellow pads, I dont have the money right now to fork out for those pads sadly, just got married. I will say that the white pad with SIP at around 1800 RPM does an amazing job at removing defects, I was stunned how aggressive it was and how nicely it finished out. On my car I followed with 106FF for maximum gloss but on clients cars I will not do it unless paid for. Plus I always follow with a chemical cleaner like KAIO or JW PS anyways.

    As I said before the only thing that really irks me about the UPPP is the waiting 24 hours thing, I always like to do two coats to ensure proper coverage and I really dont want to ask pay details to wait 24 more hours for their car. I may stick to Zaino for pay details.

    Hope that helps :)
     
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    Our past?
    Because we disagreed on some things? Come on now!

    I value your information. If you look back at any of my comments to anyone, I have never once criticized anyone for any product they've used.

    The above has helped me a lot and is needed here.

    So do you mix 106 and IP on the pad or in a bottle?
     
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    Sorry if I misled you, I do not mix 106FF and SIP, I have been using them both separately. But man I tell you what a shine 106FF leaves behind. I polished a car out last week with it and when my wife walked out she said "wow that new Ultima really leaves a shine." I replied back "Its not even on there yet, thats just the polish."

    Thats the second time she has said something similar to that. Now if I could just get more customers. This place is tough to penetrate.
     
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    so you're diggin the 106 and SIP better than OPT? Or would you stick to OC and OP if you were having to work in the sun? I'm a fan of the OPT stuff and just got a huge selection of Moose products.
     

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