GUN I figured more police would see this here...

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  1. Werm

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    (repost from offtopic forum)

    Title: So... I want to become a cop! *cop crew*

    I applied for a CSO position (Community Service Officer) yesterday. Basically you get paid 12+ dollars an hour () BUT they pay for your schooling

    I talked with the HR director for the city of Minneapolis today... there are 8 positions and tons of applicants Basically my chances are slim. I have no "related" work or educational experience. I tested out at the college the other day and did "ok" but it was right after I got off work so I was kinda tired. The two key scores they look at are Reading Comprehension and Sentence skills (so reading and writing) I got 101 and 105 out of 120 on them. (score wise)

    What's my best bet to go about this?
     
  2. KIDRR

    KIDRR Duck dog>* OT Supporter

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    Good luck, I tried to get into the Sheriff out here and they pretty much want someone who's never even had an over due book. A few speeding tickets are like murder. Hopefully you'll have better luck than I did.
     
  3. Aequitas

    Aequitas If it keeps on raining, levee's going to break.

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    For the city cops here you can't even apply until after 6 months since your last moving violation. I was talking to my law enforcement professor that works there and he said they're able to pretty much dq anyone with the slightest thing wrong because they have so many people applying for the few available positions.
     
  4. Werm

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    It worries me because right after I turned 18 I got an "underage drinking and driving" :o

    I wasn't legally drunk but I wasn't 21 :(

    I REALLY hope prior mistakes from years ago don't affect this... but I think it will :wtc:
     
  5. Aequitas

    Aequitas If it keeps on raining, levee's going to break.

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    How old are you now? A lot of the time you have to wait at least a few years before you become elligible.
     
  6. Werm

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    It will be 4 years this October... so over 3 years... it will still be on my driving record. In fact my plan was to become an officer back then, but I thought this would prohibit that from happening. I finally just decided to say fuck it and try anyways.
     
  7. Aequitas

    Aequitas If it keeps on raining, levee's going to break.

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    Why not just try to be a regular police officer, still in school?
     
  8. Werm

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    Haven't gone to school at all, I think this CSO program will offer me experience plus help me get the school
     
  9. Aequitas

    Aequitas If it keeps on raining, levee's going to break.

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    It should. The way it works in Jacksonville is they'll help pay for school and I think they'll count two years of work as one of school. (Since you need a 4 year degree to work there.) It's nothing too exciting, just non-moving violations and minor car crashes. You do get alot of experience working the radio and filling out paperwork. I'd probably do it if I was going to school there, but they don't have anything like that in Tallahassee.
     
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    KIDRR Duck dog>* OT Supporter

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    I hate to say it but depending on where you're at that underage drinking and driving will probably be the thing to screw you over. You can keep trying to get in but who wants to be one of those losers who apply every year and in the mean time work some security job paying $12hr. Sometimes you just have to accpet things and move on.
     
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    I've thought about going LEO route before, my problem is I'd probably get flagged on the polygraph :o
     
  12. Werm

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    For what? What do they polygraph you on??
     
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    I'd really like to be LEO, but there's no way I could afford the pay cut :wtc:

    I've been thinking it over and there's just no way to do it. Guess I'm stuck in this tech job :hs:
     
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    Usually you'll fill out some sort of quiz beforehand that'll ask you various questions and they poly you on some of that stuff, stuff like if you've ever stolen from previous employer or in general, done or sold drugs since you were 18-21, etc. Saw a list of like 50 questions they may ask awhile back their was a couple that would probably flag me from my young and dumb days.
     
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    just be honest :dunno:
     
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    Part of the problem is the polygraph is like having your tea leaves read, its bunk thats been pushed off on people as science. Alot of people have been fucked out of jobs or are told they're lying when they're telling the truth. https://antipolygraph.org/cgi-bin/forums/YaBB.pl

    The worst seems to be when someone applies for something like the FBI and fails their poly. Now they go back to private sector work and need security clearance for a new job but the fbi has a record of them failing a poly for them.... I don't believe I would ever take one and that certainly does keep me out of some jobs I think I'd be good at. I have the same policy for urine tests too though.

    The questions will depend on the department but you can expect to be asked if you've stole, drug use, maybe falsified timesheets, probably about illegal sex acts (prostitution, kids, animals), if you're trying to hide anything, etc. Some people report they're asked about their legal sex life as well in the lifestyle section of the exam like their fidelity, their kinks, the weirdest things they've done in the sack, if you look at porn. It seems some examiners have their own interesting little kinks.

    here's a good story https://antipolygraph.org/cgi-bin/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1153957380

    So anyway if you apply at a place that uses the poly be prepared to be shameless, mistreated, and unhappy with the results.
     
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    Up north, competition for police jobs is stiff. There are few openings and for some reason, everyone and their brother wants to be a cop. I moved south and got a law enforcement job down here. I moved to an area I loved and got my dream job, two birds with one stone. :big grin:

    My tip? If your environment is limiting your opportunities, change your environment.
     
  18. Gaunt

    Gaunt blood for the blood god OT Supporter

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    idk they have that cso in mandarin that weighs like 300 lbs with his gut completely hangout all over the place. oh and the safety yellow shirts they wear. :mamoru:
     
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    If you are willing to relocate, then move to Texas. Wife got hired even with an arrest (Arrested, but the judge threw it out and chastised the arresting officer). It was great because he even asked the prosecutor why he brought it to court, but I digress.

    Starting salary for a town with pop 60K near mine is 46,000 a year. They pay for school as well. Texas has been recruiting LEO heavily up north and very successful with it due to the vast pay difference. Most of that is done with prior experience officers though. Move here and live for 6 months then apply- shouldn't have too hard a time finding a job.
     
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    I see what you're saying, but don't all LEO jobs require a poly? I don't think there's really any way around it if you want in that type of job. Might as well try it and just be honest - what else can you do?
     
  21. Aequitas

    Aequitas If it keeps on raining, levee's going to break.

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    Yeah, I know the one you're talking about. I'd have a hard time doing it since they don't even get vests, not that the one guy could fit. I know they aren't handling any real calls, but you never know who the people are that just got in an accident.
     
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    Our CSOs get vests (at least I think they do, I've seen a few with them) and OC spray. The difference between them and us as far as the OC goes is they're only allowed to use it to defend themselves.

    Their response to calls is limited. It's usually assisting motorists, working private property accidents, taking reports of burglaries that are old or there's no suspect information. Basically any low-priority call that doesn't need an actual police officer to respond to, they'll take it.

    They also run our city jail.
     
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    I quickly browsed the site, and it seems to me every story is people either getting caught in a lie and being pissed or pissed that they tried to trick the machine by giving false positives , and are pissed they failed.

    It's not science, and they do have errors, but why go out of your way to make the machine read you wrong?
     
  24. Competition here for LEO is well...not much since Baltimore is a shitty city and the county I live in is shitty too. They would higher you if you did weed or w/e as long as you don't do it now and aren't a complete moron. They NEED cops.

    Also PG cops have on of the best retirement programs in the nation, and also have a lot of action to keep you busy as a street cop.
     
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    Small Block LSX BMW | N54 | LSX | Gun | PS3 | Parent | Night CREW

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    That's what happened to Slick26. He wants to be a cop so bad too, but he has a minor theft from like 6-7 years ago. He was drunk at Cub Foods and was wandering around with another drunk friend. He opened up a beef jerky, had it in his mouth, and just walked past the cashier as his buddy was paying for his food. The security guard flipped out, cops came, and they actually pressed charges for a $1.49 piece of beef jerky.

    Not only is it hurting his chance from being a cop, but I referred him to my company for an excellent job and they would not hire him because of it... even though he was 19 years old at that time. :hs:
     

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