I feel stupid for my brand loyalty to GM for all these years.

Discussion in 'OT Driven' started by Buick Muscle, Nov 28, 2005.

  1. Buick Muscle

    Buick Muscle Guest

    Brand Loyalty is so retarded. I used to be hands down without a doubt the biggest Chevrolet sackrider on the forum. I blindly defended the cars they produced, not caring if they were cobbled togethor fiber-glass rigs with just a bowtie logo. I thought they were the best because they were GM, and GM built the F-Body.

    Looking back, I feel so retarded. GM has got to be the worst company producing cars on the market today.

    They are too bureaucratic for there own good.

    They make stupid design decisions with the cars obviously at the bean-counters yelping to maximize their dollar per unit production cost ratio, and wind up losing even more money because people don't buy the pieces of shit when they finally figure out they are just buying one huge ass compromise with a rebate tag and a warranty.

    Even when they make a good decision, they make a bad one.

    Ideas that seem flawless on paper, GM somehow has the tenacity to uterly drop the ball on it.

    They import a European designed chassis and somehow make it handle similiar to a domestic built Cavalier chassis.

    They import a flawless Australian muscle car and turn it into a dismal turd by making it look like a Grand Am, when they should have realised that it would have been best just leaving the design the way it was.

    They make a overpriced, all steel show truck and drop in the weakest V8 avaliable, counting on "strong heritage cues" and doctors with deep pocket books to move them.

    Somehow they make the H3, a smaller Hummer for people who can't afford a real Hummer. However, they manage to shoe-horn a one-trick pony of an engine that does nothing special, is barely adequete, and somehow, despite the fact that it has less cylinders then a V6 and half the Horsepower, it does have similiar gas mileage to a Hemi V8.




    They are late to react, to anything.

    Even in the rare cases that GM builds a winner, they are extremly late to the market with it. The new HHR, the Pontiac Solstice and Sky, (one barely released, one yet to release) and the GTO with a properly sized engine in it. The comparable competition to these cars had already been on the market for years now, whoever wants one has already had it, and these cars really should have been on the market a year earlier then they came to market.

    They are totally, utterly, disconnected with the customer base.

    For years people have been fawning for the V8 Impala to come back, and finally, years after it axed the Rear drive variant in late 96, it finally answers the call, a stinking turd of a rebadged Cobalt with a V8 driven by the front wheels. But, GM pleads, due to inner management conflict we do not have a RWD chassis set up yet. I hope you understand the compromise.

    No, we don't understand the compromise. We want a RWD V8 powered door slammer, damned be the gas prices, and we will go to whoever delivers. In this case, it sure as hell isn't GM.

    So, to sum it all up...

    If you really love a certain car manufacturer or brand, the best thing you can ever do for them is be honest and if the competiton offers a better car, then buy it. All brand loyalty does is make your beloved company rest on it's laurels, confident that even if they don't make the best product out there, they will always have the sackriders out there blindly defending there product.

    R.I.P GM. It's been nice knowing you.


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    BTW, here's the new Challenger concept photo. It's mean, it's lean, it's not FWD.
     
  2. rhlx

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    another person seeing the light :bigthumb:
     
  3. antihero

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  4. isaac86hatch

    isaac86hatch This thread sucks

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    BEST THREAD EVAR honestly.
     
  5. Jake!

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    when you are dumb (well, forced to or they strike) enough to sign UAW contracts to operate a plant well past its usefull life (F-Body and many others)... alot of those contracts dated to the late 80's early 90's.. but it is just one of the examples of the way the UAW fucked over GM

    GM is stuck cleaning up the mess made in the 80s & early 90s... health care, pensions, misc UAW BS, giant corprate red tape, bean counters over ruling engineers & designers, design by committee....

    GM in the 80's tried to kill off the Corvette

    What they need to do:
    1. Tell the UAW to get a clue or :gtfo: -get healthcare back under control! it costs GM FIVE BILLION A YEAR
    2. Fewer brands.
    3. Fewer small dealers
    4. get rid of izuzu and suzuki
    5. get rid of the job bank!!
    6. toyota like PR blitz - "perceived" quality
    7. stop this dealer bs - market adjustments killed the first year of the GTO.. those dealers need to go
    8. stick with value pricing - fewer rebates! ("perceived" quality)


    Recent good things GM has done:
    1. GMDAT is kicking ass
    2. sold off subaru stake
    3. plant closures - a few will reopen, this was a wakeup call to the UAW
    4. delphi - again wakeup call to the UAW (UAW workers cost delphi $67 an hour!)
    5. new cars - "lutz cars" are selling well
     
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  6. LBKornhusker

    LBKornhusker Muscular cyborg German dude dances with sexy Frenc

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    funny because you could also put FORD in place of GM and it still makes sense.
     
  7. Quagmire

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    you should...GM has been behind the game for a LONG time :o
     
  8. TheNiz

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    :werd:
     
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    I'm not sure why i read that, but kudos for not sackriding anymore
     
  10. Guilty

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  11. Mikel

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    I agree, they make one car I would buy.
     
  12. JW2

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    This line of reasoning reminds me of a Bush supporter...
     
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    SO you're saying they don't make shitty cars?
     
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    Bush doesnt care about GM
     
  16. Kerpal

    Kerpal handlobraes

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    they used to make such awesome cars.... before 1972 :mamoru:

    they fucked themselves over thinking they'd be alble to stay alive off of fullsize truck & suv sales in the late '90's / early '00's

    the only model I like besides the Z06 is the CTS-V... and I don't like the styling, but it's an awesome value.
     
  17. Quagmire

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    you kicked...my dog.
     
  18. dsvtec

    dsvtec I have an LS3 AND an amazingly supple and flowing

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    GM is still paying for their idea of focusing on the image instead of the product business model of the late 80's. They even published reports of "Consumer Clinic's" that they did finding that consumers really didn't think that style wasn't an important part of buying cars.
     
  19. Jake!

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    thats how we get buicks!
     
  20. Rev Happy

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    never owned one
     
  21. Kerpal

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    yeah, nobody ever bought a car based on styling :rofl:
     
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  23. Jake!

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    the ideas are there but things like this hurt the thread starter:

     
  24. you know me

    you know me OT where the douchbags play

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    GM has had one consistently good car for over 50 years, and that's about it. They are starting to get their heads out of their asses but it's a slow process for them. The UAW is really killing GM and all domestic makers. Will GM die? I doubt it.
     
  25. Jake!

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    people seem to have forgotten the similar state chrysler was in..
     

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