I've heard this a few times, most notably from chechen. I don't agree with it at all. The UFC is one thing, because most people classify it as sports entertainment. Let's at least keep submission wrestling as a pure sport, if people want to win on points by scoring and stalling then so be it. For example - 2000 Olympics wrestling match between Rulon Gardner and Karelin. Karelin loses to a point, Rulon stalls Karelin and wins the match...should you complain about him stalling? No, so there is no reason to expect people to risk winning for your excitement.