I don't know anything about nVidia cards.

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  1. deusexaethera

    deusexaethera OT Supporter

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    I'm contemplating upgrading my video card, but the stipulation is that the card must not have a cooling fan -- not even a quiet one. NewEgg is selling a Gigabyte GeForce 6600 (overclocked by 100MHz, if I recall) that has a fat heatpipe on it, but I don't know anything about nVidia cards. How old is the 6600 chipset? How does it compare to a Radeon 9600XT Pro?
     
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    6600 is 2 generations newer. Supports pixel shader 2.0, as well. Fully vista-compliant.
     
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    what's comparable to the Radeion 9600XT Pro, just for reference?
     
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    ATI 9600XT
    Core: 500Mhz
    Memory: 600Mhz
    Memory Interface: 128-bit
    Pixel pipelines: 4
    DirectX: 9.0 (not c)

    nVidia 6600
    Core: 300MHz
    Memory: varies 275 or 350Mhz
    Memory Interface: 64-bit or 128-bit
    Pixel Pipeline: 8
    DirectX: 9.0c

    The nVidia card also supports ShaderModel 3.0, all 6 series and up cards too. ATI didn't start support of ShaderModel2.0 until the x### series (x700, x800, and whatever else), it was until the x1### series that they started to suppport SM3.0.
    The nVidia card might seem slower, but it'll out perform that ATI card, it's because of those 4 extra pixel pipelines....which BTW you might be able to unlock 4 more plus an extra vertex shader but don't quote me on that but it's something you cannot do on any ATI card that I've ever heard of.

    What kind of a budget are you dealing with?
    And I'm guessing you're still stuck with AGP.



    Oh and BTW, here is Tom's Hardware AGP Summer 2005 round up
    http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/07/05/vga_charts_vii/index.html
    There are times that the 9600XT does beat the 6600, but only just barely and it's usually in the first, lower settings, test. But once the settings are turned up the 6600 really shines while the 9600XT falls back. Granted even then the spread isn't much, as you'll see with the Half-Life2 test the 9600XT is ahead by 0.9fps in the first test but in the second they swap places but now the 6600 has exactly a 1fps lead; turn on AA and AF and the 9600XT doesn't even make it on the list while the 6600 is still there but it's hurting. In Doom3 the 6600 wins hands down with the 9600XT not even getting up to a playable 30fps, again turn on AA and AF and the 9600XT sits out for the test while the 6600 shows up but struggles. With The Sim2 with and "No Smoothing Edges" the 9600XT is flying above the 6600 by about 30fps more, but turn on "Smoothing Edges" and the 9600XT isn't playable with 18fps while the 6600 is a hair under 30fps.
    Keep in mind when I say playable, that means at least 30fps or better.
     
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    Get the 6600GT if you do get one, they should only cost somewhere around $120 or less. I have one right now, and it runs BF2 on medium settings w/ 2xaa. I can run the Source engine almost maxxed, infact I think it is maxxed. Fear runs good too.
     
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    pretty sure it supports SM3.0 w/o HDR.
     
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    it supports HDR
     
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    Looks like I'll be spending another $100 on my computer soon, then. I'm surprised that the nVidia 6600 gets away with running 40% slower than the 9600 -- I mean, MHz isn't everything for sure, but it isn't nothing either. Huh.
     
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    I've seen that before; that thing is fucking huge. I have a no-fan, single-slot-width stipulation for any video card I buy. I prefer to encourage power efficiency whenever possible. The 6600 certainly has a bigger heatpipe on it than my ATI 9600XT has, but it's still one slot wide, so it fits the bill.

    Now, what to do with the 9600? Maybe I'll give it to my brother.
     
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    My budget is effectively unlimited; my choices are controlled by the stipulations I mentioned in my previous post, and on prudence. My money earns money where it is now, and it will lose money if I spend it on stuff that is outdated within a year.

    Yes, I'm still "stuck" with AGP. But since most PCI-Express cards are just overclocked AGP cards with a different slot connector, it's not like I'm missing out on much, yet.
     
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    not rly. nVidia cards are true PCI-E... Although some ATI cards are using bridge chips.
     
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    Not really. I have 20k sitting in a savings account. (not bad for being employed for only 9 months, eh?) It earns enough every month to pay for one of these cards.

    Does the 6800 come with a heatpipe? No silence, no care, as some would say.
     

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