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  1. KungFool7

    KungFool7 keep driving—it's getting earlier

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    edit: This is a question for other guys, not females.

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    start backstory...

    Ok, so i got my ideas for how men were supposed to be from movies and such when i was younger.

    I started "Partying" when i was 15. This dude i worked with who was 22 had his own place with some roomates and wanted to bust my weed cherry.

    After much convincing, i got a ride over there one night after work and smoked my first bowl.

    I lost my virginity a couple months later just before i hit 16. When i hit 16 and got my liscense i started going over there every day. I smoked and drank my ass off and had quite a bit of sex.

    This went on for another 2 years until i joined the military. After basic training, i was pretty horny and had alot of sex at tech school. the dorms weren't co-ed so it was things like getting head in the car, having sex behind the pier at the beach and a quick power fuck in the .5c movie stall in a porn shop (embarassing).

    When i got to my first base, i had to go through a class with all the other new troops, the class was about 15 people strong with half of them females.

    Within the first 2 weeks i had sex with 3 of them and was not very nice afterwards, making my work enviroment (and i'm sure their's as well) hell for the past 2 years.

    /end backstory

    So basically, i haven't had sex now in a few months and haven't really been trying, but i still have that "fuck as many people as you can" idea in my head, and no matter how hard i try to get rid of it i can't stop thinking like that.

    I haven't had a girlfriend since i was 13, which involved holding hands at lunch time. It's hard for me to get involved with a girl because i don't trust them. The smallest things, like girls at hooters touching you and flinging their tits in your face for a better tip just pisses me off. Wear the small shirt and shorts, serve me my food and don't talk to me. I know it's their job, and i know they accept that customers want all that, but it still bugs me. Sound like insecurity?

    Basically, the main question is does this sound like a phase (i'm 20) i'm going through or has it become a part of me? And if it is part of me, how the fuck can i get rid of it.

    I'm not coming on here to brag. No one here knows me in real life or any where outside of offtopic, and very few know me even on offtopic so i have no reason to brag anyways. I've slept with somewhere around 30 different girls, and i have never once used a condom. For some reason i get to the point of penetration and always think "i've been lucky so far, why start now", then i spend the next week scared. I've been tested for stds more times than i can count and have never come up with anything.

    I am still in contact with less than 10 of the girls i've slept with so i don't even know if i have gotten any of them pregnant.

    I don't know when my luck is going to run out or if it already has, and i need to change, and fast.

    one more tidbit in case it matters, i'm not religious and don't plan on changing that, so it's not an option.
     
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  2. KungFool7

    KungFool7 keep driving—it's getting earlier

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    Longer than i meant, sorry about that.
     
  3. JohnJohnJohnson

    JohnJohnJohnson Effetely Sipping My Latte OT Supporter

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    Well, first of all, what's a good way to get laid?

    That said, why are you talking about girls at hooters bugging you? What about r/l girls?

    Ok. I just realized what you should do as I wrote that. I bet you don't have any attractive female friends who are just friends. Try being just friends with a hot girl. Don't do anything w/ her until you are close with her personally.
     
  4. KungFool7

    KungFool7 keep driving—it's getting earlier

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    A good way to get laid? Uh, dunno. I'm from oregon and everyone highschool/college girl i knew smoked weed and a good majority of them were hot. It sorta just happens. I don't know what to tell you.

    as far as hooters, I don't know, i just brought it up because maybe it might show an example of my personality.

    I do have a couple cute female friends, but it's just because they are one of the guys. I can't be friends with a typical cute girl because they annoy me.
     
  5. JohnJohnJohnson

    JohnJohnJohnson Effetely Sipping My Latte OT Supporter

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    I am talking of a single very close female friend.
     
  6. BlazinBlazer Guy

    BlazinBlazer Guy Witness to The De-Evolution of Mankind.

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    Well, it does matter, but only in the way I gear this reply.

    All humans, regardless of whether they are religious, have certain character traits which are coined as "moral and ethical beliefs." You demonstrated your own ethics/morals by describing the hatred for wait-staff at hooters and their actions.

    Much the same, you have to search within yourself to find an answer to this issue -- do you feel like it's ethically/morally right for you to be sleeping around with all of these women (or conquesting to do so) while totally unprotected?

    You hinted that you'd feel bad if there were kids who were biologically yours running around out there, and you didn't know it. As such, you should at the very least limit your sexual conquest to women who you are, or will thereafter continue to be in contact with, to know if you've made any children. Ideally, you should be using a condom (bare minimum) regardless of who you're having sex with, if you don't want kids. And furthermore it would be wise to limit your sexual interests to those women (or one woman) you are involved in a dedicated relationship with... but it comes down to where YOU want to draw that line for yourself. Nobody else can tell you what you feel is right and wrong for YOU.

    So, it doesn't come down to religion as the reason to not sleep around like this, it is rather pure human nature -- to have moral and ethical boundaries that we set for ourselves not to cross, to fit into society.
     
  7. KungFool7

    KungFool7 keep driving—it's getting earlier

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    I don't find it morally wrong to sleep with alot of women, because i enjoy sex.

    I don't find it morally wrong to not wear condom, i just think it's stupid but don't have the tiniest fucking ounce of "courage" to reach down and spend the few seconds it takes to put it on.

    I do find it morally wrong to not take care of a life you helped to create, and i don't do it intentionally if i actually do have a kid(s), it's just the situations i have put myself into.

    I would like to find a girl that i am comfortable with and just be faithful. Maybe my problem in that regard is just that she hasn't come around yet and i've been doing stupid stuff in the meantime.
     
  8. JohnJohnJohnson

    JohnJohnJohnson Effetely Sipping My Latte OT Supporter

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    Why do you call it lack of "courage" in regards to not putting on a condom?
     
  9. Coco Monkey

    Coco Monkey OT Supporter

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    this has nothing to do with your thread... but...

    where are you stationed at? :hsugh:
     
  10. BlazinBlazer Guy

    BlazinBlazer Guy Witness to The De-Evolution of Mankind.

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    Same question I was thinking.... :dunno:

    Based on the reply, I'd say the short and simple answer is to consiously develop some form of self control -- it's way too easy to continue living as you always have; to change does take effort on your part. You seem to know what you want to be doing, now just do it. Even if that means you start asking the women you sleep with if they're on BC before you hit the mattress with them (since you don't want to wear condoms). That at least protects you somewhat.

    Also if I may suggest, it's possible that you've slept with so many women, and it's become so easy for you to get sex from many different women, that you aren't viewing them as much more than sexual objects -- physical entities only. You wouldn't be the first person to lose respect (subconsiously/unintentionally) for women after discovering how easy it is to have sex with them. Maybe that's part of what is keeping you from finding a woman to feel "comfortable" with, or one to be faithful to.

    Just another thought.
     
  11. KungFool7

    KungFool7 keep driving—it's getting earlier

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    I couldn't think up another word, hence the quotes.

    Usually it's just because i'm to lazy when the time comes.
     
  12. KungFool7

    KungFool7 keep driving—it's getting earlier

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    That'll be my little secret.
     
  13. KungFool7

    KungFool7 keep driving—it's getting earlier

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    I've been working on changing. I find myself thinking the same way i always have, but i've been trying not to get in the same situations lately just as a first step, so it's been a little bit since i've had sex.

    One step at a time, right? Hard parts are mainly when i go back home on leave and see all the people i know or see all the phone numbers in my address book.
     
  14. Bruticus

    Bruticus half dead OT Supporter

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    I never had the 'must fuck as many of them as I can' phase so I can't really relate there, but until you can trust someone there's no chance you're ever going to have a proper relationship. There must be some underlying issues there that you need to work through before you even bother to try and persue a proper relationship.
     
  15. RedVsBlue

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    And that underlying issue is pure immaturity.
     
  16. KungFool7

    KungFool7 keep driving—it's getting earlier

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    Pure immaturity? Obviously i recognize a problem, am making an effort to change it and seeking outside opinions.

    You want a taste of immaturity? Get the fuck out of the thread.
     
  17. RockChick

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    dude, thats not lack of courage, thats a big lack of intelligence right there... not cos of the kiddos that you might have to take care of 9months later but cos of stds, aids etc... but i'm sure you are aware of that... maybe you are one of the persons that have to get an std before they change their ways...


    if hooters pisses you off, why go there in the first place?! that didnt make sense at all... lots of places have "normal" waitresses...

    what is the reason that you do not trust girls since you never had a real gf (except the one when you were 13)?
     
  18. KungFool7

    KungFool7 keep driving—it's getting earlier

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    I know plenty of woman, and alot of my friend's girlfriends. i see how they manipulate other people.

    Hypocriticle(sp), i know.
     
  19. RockChick

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    manipulate in what way? and is that the only reason?
     
  20. BlazinBlazer Guy

    BlazinBlazer Guy Witness to The De-Evolution of Mankind.

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    Actually that's exactly what I was saying before -- you've lost respect for women, and that's the root of your problem.
     
  21. BlazinBlazer Guy

    BlazinBlazer Guy Witness to The De-Evolution of Mankind.

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    I would be inclined to agree, based on my own personal beliefs (and the fact that I'm a somewhat religious person); but I would also say that it depends alot on the person -- different people mature in different ways.

    Especially when it comes to sex, there is no such thing as a "set standard" since likes/dislikes/etc. are a very individual thing.

    Again, I'm inclined to agree -- but if (and I know I'm making an assumption I shouldn't be making here, but just to play devil's advocate) he's asking the girls if they've been tested clean and/or if they're on BC, maybe he isn't taking as big of a risk as it would seem. While personally I would never ignore the simplest of ways to cover my ass (so to speak), I can see where he may be comming from.
     
  22. RockChick

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    maybe he is afraid that this kinda interruption makes him go limp?!?!?
     
  23. KungFool7

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    see my previous post.


     
  24. KungFool7

    KungFool7 keep driving—it's getting earlier

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    Like i said before, alot of the situations i put myself in to had alcohol or drugs as a factor and obviously did not have positive effects on my judgement.

    Also, like i said before, i have not been putting myself into those situations lately.

    The main problem for me right now is trying to change my head so i don't WANT to be in those situations, instead of fighting the urge.
     
  25. RockChick

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    well, this is pretty damn fucking stupid then... sure you've been lucky so far but man, you are young... do you really wanna take a risk like that?!
     

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