GUN I can't decide between an AR-15 or an 870 :o

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  1. xpinchx

    xpinchx hes got a nice cock, on the thin side but its stil

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    I know, they're completely different guns for different purposes, but I only have money to buy one more gun for quite a while. I feel like I should get some sort of AR before Obama takes the office, but I don't know if it would really be worth the $700ish to get a decent one. The range I use only goes out to 100 yards, plus I already have a WASR-2 for a HD carbine (even though I'd much rather use my glock.) Or a shotgun. I'm not absolutely set on the 870 but that seems to be the best compromise for cost vs reliability and functionality. I've never owned a shotgun and I'd really like one for HD and for shooting clays, as unpractical as that may be for a pump shotgun :o.

    I know pump shotguns will probably never be banned, but I don't know if I really want/need an AR. The trouble comes when I don't know if I would want one 4 years down the road. :hs: Fucking politicians.
     
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    THT The easy way is always mined

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    Get the AR. You may not have a use for it but if anything, if it's banned and grandfathered in, it'll be worth a fair bit more than you paid for it (provided that you can transfer it).
     
  3. xpinchx

    xpinchx hes got a nice cock, on the thin side but its stil

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    That's a pretty big risk, though. :hs:
     
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    Keesh New Member

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    I vote AR. I've been an AK nut for a while and thought I'd never get an AR, but honestly, I'm glad I did. It's fun learning a new system and you have an unlimited amount of options with the AR platform. Plus the .22 kits are a fucking godsend. Cheap practice = win.
     
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    I'd take a rifle like an ar15 over an 870 for home defense any day of the week (cue yar here). I also think the ar15 is a lot more fun to shoot. If you want to do clays, get the right gun for that but personally my 870 is teetering on a very fine line of getting sold.
     
  6. Pineapple Devil

    Pineapple Devil beat it!

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    i told my friend to buy one a couple months back on the chance obama got in office. he said the same thing. now look what happened


    buy the ar
     
  7. Buy the AR.
     
  8. KNYTE

    KNYTE I'm Not Kidding.

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    AR, the 870 isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
     
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    2L Bunny "It's only a Rabbit"

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    Agreed.
     
  10. xpinchx

    xpinchx hes got a nice cock, on the thin side but its stil

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    I'm not stickyfingaz :hsugh:.
     
  11. xpinchx

    xpinchx hes got a nice cock, on the thin side but its stil

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    Well, it's pretty clear what the smartest thing to do is :hs:. What caliber should I get the AR in, standard .223? Where should I buy from? Should I piece one together or just buy a complete?

    I just want a standard flat top M4-type. :dunno: Is a 16" M4 contour barrel still pretty accurate at 300ish yards?
     
  12. If you are just looking to plink with it and shoot at 400 yards or less, the .223 is fine. I really don't know what the accuracy of a chromed barrel will be at 300 yards though.
     
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    The .223 would probably be your best bet... I'm thinking about getting a lower and building one with a 5.45 upper to save on ammo costs some.
     
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    xpinchx hes got a nice cock, on the thin side but its stil

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    How does 5.45 compare with 5.56 accuracy-wise? I have a WASR-2 so only having one caliber to deal with would be an advantage.
     
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    From what I've read, the calibers are pretty similar. :dunno:

    With the $78 group buy on lowers and the 5.45 upper from AIM, I'm seriously considering this...
     
  16. The problem with any surplus ammo, and especially eastern bloc ammo, is that it's not really made for accuracy. I'd bet on surplus .223 being more accurate than surplus 5.45. It really depends on how much accuracy you're looking for. Are you looking to plink at 100 yards, or shoot impressive groups at 100 yards?
     
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    THT The easy way is always mined

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    And it's usually corrosive.
     
  18. xpinchx

    xpinchx hes got a nice cock, on the thin side but its stil

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    let's see...

    $570 5.45 upper
    $100 lower + transfer
    $50ish LPK
    $70ish flip up rear sight

    Is that really everything I need for a complete rifle?
     
  19. You'd need a buttstock assembly too.
     
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    thedude11 New Member

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    I'd just be doing plinking, for the most part.


    Worth the sacrifice, IMO.
     
  21. You'd be fine with either then. And as long as you clean the rifle properly when you're done shooting, the corrosive ammo won't be much of an issue.
     
  22. xpinchx

    xpinchx hes got a nice cock, on the thin side but its stil

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    They don't have to be that impressive. What's the cost of .223 vs 5.45 nowadays anyway?
     
  23. AIM has 5.45 for like $120/1080 rounds. Ammoman has wolf .223 for $270/1000 rounds. Of course, if you so desire, you can get really nice .223, not so much with the 5.45.


    EDIT: AIM has wolf .223 for $230/1000.
     
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    If I wanted to take a rifle class, something along the lines of a Tactical Response class, do you see any reason why a 5.45 AR wouldn't work?
     
  25. I don't know that much about 5.45. As far as I can tell, the corossive stuff is bad when left in the bore for an extended period of time. I'm sure as long as the chrome lining is good you'd have no problem with it in there for a while.
     

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