GUN Hunting/Fun rifle

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  1. JaxFlJon

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    I need to get a gun that I can hunt with and still have fun shooting it at a firing range. Guess what I mean is semi-auto is preferable. I was thinking the AK-47 could prolly be fun to hunt with, maybe not as practical. Ideas/Suggestions welcomed. Also hunting with an AK-47 might not be as legal.
     
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    Depends on what kind of hunting.

    the 5.56 or 5.45 would make good varmint cartridges and are inexpensive enough to shoot with regularly. Some states allow you to use 5.56 on deer, but I'd go with something a bit larger. 5.45 is under .22 caliber, so its probably illegal to use on deer in most states.

    You could also go with 7.62x39 as a decent cartridge for small deer. There was a guy on The High Road who took an SKS, put it in a new stock and scoped it and uses it as a whitetail rifle.
     
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    i'd say a garand, but i think 30-06 seems a bit overkill on deer.
     
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    30-06 is fine for deer, the ballistics of it and .308 arent far off from each other :dunno:
     
  5. Dobis P.R.

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    .30-06 has probably taken down more deer than any other cartridge
     
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    Just get the Ak you can buy good rounds for hunting, then surplus rounds for having fun
     
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    Why not try an SKS? It's cheap and reliable, and similar in power to the 30-30 which has taken more deer here than any other caliber.
     
  8. JaxFlJon

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    I noticed the SKS ammo is the same as used in some AK's (7.62x39). Would the SKS be more accurate than an AK?
     
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    The best AK hunting rounds you're going to find are Remington Core-lokts :hsugh:
     
  10. JaxFlJon

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    But arent SKS and AK rounds the same stuff?
     
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    yes both us 7.62x39, some AKs are 5.56 i believe but the common ones are 7.62
     
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    5.56 AK? only one i've seen is the atlantic firearms one, the SAM-5.

    most are 7.62 or 5.45.
     
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    sorry meant 5.45, i wasn't sure and didn't feel like looking it up, I know bin ladens ak is that and its shortened



    http://www.sovietarmy.com/small_arms/aks-74u.html
     
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    Yes the SKS tends to be quite a bit more accurate.

    (and yes there are several different 5.56 AK variants)
     
  15. JaxFlJon

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    I was reading that you can fit a Hi-Cap clip into an SKS. Is that somthing that can be done and be reliable? Or is it more of a 'rigged' system? Also has anyone heard of the problems of "slamfires" ? Didn't sound good to me when I was reading up on it on Wikipedia

    Edit: Recoil Buffers a good idea? Or don't even worry about it?
     
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    There are hicap detachable mags available. They work questionably at best. You're better off with a handful of stripper clips... the rifle can be reloaded quickly enough. Slamfires happen mostly when people get a rifle that's been in cosmoline and don't clean the bolt properly. In other words, not a problem. And don't worry about the buffer either.
     
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    The only AK's that won't accept a normal capacity magazine (30 rds) are "rigged."

    You still haven't mentioned the type of hunting you are looking at doing. The 7.62x39 is about equivalent in power to the venerable 30-30. It is plenty for a fair sized deer. Place your shots correctly and you'll be fine.

    Check regulations in your area. Some jurisdictions have limits on how many rounds you can have in a magazine for hunting. The SKS has the benefit of being a longer, heavier rifle with a longer sight radius. It will be more accurate than the AK using stock sights. You can fit a decent scope to either one to improve your shot when hunting.

    There are AK's that are chambered in 5.56x45. They aren't that rare that you'll never find parts or be able to service them. K-VAR is a great source for parts. You can buy a new rifle (Bulgarian parts built in the USA) from Arsenal Inc. I own an Arsenal rifle in 5.45x39 and its been good thus far although I only have a couple hundred rounds through it.

    Any AK will probably great, but for hunting larger game (deer), you'd be better with an actual rifle...not a carbine. Varmints will be fine with an AK.
     
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    What about an old Mauser 8mm?
     
  19. JaxFlJon

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    I would be doing deer hunting mainly. I dont suspect I'd be taking any moose down in FL =)
     
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    it'd be a better choice than an SKS :dunno:
     
  21. JaxFlJon

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    So an SKS wouldnt be such a hot idea for deer hunting then?
     
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    I never had a problem using an SKS hunting deer. You just have to use the heavier ammo. It was very similar to my old 30.30
     
  23. JaxFlJon

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    Heavier ammo?
     
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    heavier bullets, more grains
     
  25. JaxFlJon

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    So besides needing more grains, an SKS would be just fine? Maybe just a little on the 'weak' side? From what I know about hunting I've been told that a .22 magnum would be enough to hunt deer with. But .22 isnt big enough for my tastes lol.
     

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