So I came to a conflict tonight... how badass is the Wizard, really? Looking at the specs, it's younger brother, the tornado is rather similar. Windows Mobile 5 Quad-Band 64 MB RAM (Although the Wizard has double the ROM... would that mean the internal storage?) MiniSD slot 64,000 QVGA Color LCD (both transflective, both the same resolution) WiFi (Although the Tornado only has B, whereas the Wizard has the whole range... could a Mobile device even take advantage of the extra speed?) 1.3 MP Camera Look at that though... very few diffrences, and the Wizard will cost twice as much? I'm just not too sure about it. The Treo could be a good intermediate device, but... 240x240? That's so lame. I just don't know. The idea of having a keyboard is fleeting... especailly since I could buy a USB board for $100 and be on with it. Anyone have any input? If anything, is anyone going to get the Tornado? What an awesome phone. You'll be happy with any of these. Wizard: http://www.imate.com/DETAILS_KJAM.htm Tornado: http://www.imate.com/DETAILS_SP5.htm Tornado Music edition: http://www.imate.com/DETAILS_SP5.htm (might want to get this for easier movie controls... but maybe that's a little too much) You can order the Wizard now for over $600, I'm guessing by the holidays it will be around $550. I think the tornado will go for $300 or so by then, or $250 with a contract. Just my opinion.