How to you explain to morons who don't know shit about....

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  1. Fabian

    Fabian Active Member

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    ...steroids but want to start taking them?

    This guy at work this morning asked me if I knew where to get steroids since he's been losing weight. He then tells me he's too tired after work to go to the gym so he hasn't even been working out, and just needs some juice to get his weight up :ugh2:

    I tried to tell him it's worthless at this point, and will be for a LOOOONG time to come since he has so far to go before he naturally platueas. But he thinks he can just start shooting and magically gain weight. Now, I'm no pro with anything concerning any kind of steroids but my basic understanding is as follows...

    Steroids don't make you big, they allow you to train harder and therefore you get big.

    Steroids are practically useless until you've trained for years and have platuead.

    Maybe I'm wrong on those?

    This guy seriously doesn't know SHIT about anything fitness related, does not have a healthy diet, does not work out. Nothing. But I can't get him to understand that he'd be wasting his money and his liver if he does this. But as much of a dumbass as he is, I AM concerned for his health, so what more can I say to him to get him to change his mind? The most progress I made with him was

    "Well, alright. I wont start a cycle for like three months, when I start lifting"

    :ugh:
     
  2. Fabian

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    Maybe. Like I said, I'm no expert. From what I've gathered I thought it allowed you to work harder. Well that AND the decreased recovery time thing...I figured they worked hand in hand. :dunno:
     
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    a simple way to explain it is... if he isn't a professional at any type of sport/competitive lifting, then he shouldn't even consider it. Just not worth it.
     
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    i coulda sworn that cavefish posted once saying that a study was done. those on steroids who didn't workout (sedentary) gained more lbm than those who were clean working out in a set time frame.



    i'm not saying this guy can/should go on steroids of any kind, but according to that... steroids do help if you dont workout. i could have just made it up in my mind, my memory suuucks.
     
  5. cavefish

    cavefish You ain't a crook son, you just a shook one

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    Let him learn the hard way, fuck 'em.

    He'll still look like shit after his cycle, I know plenty of morons who have done them the wrong way and look terrible.
     
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    michael FLORIDA > *

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    so frmo my HRT i should be gaining lbm just on principle?
     
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    Ceaze https://hearthis.at/DoYouEvenUplift Moderator

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    i searched so hard for that study and couldn't find it :mad:
     
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    Ceaze https://hearthis.at/DoYouEvenUplift Moderator

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    You're not taking supraphysiological dosages.
     
  9. SteveO

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    no because HRT is just normalizing your levels. If you actually were very low in the beginning you may have seen some gains
     
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    michael FLORIDA > *

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    i was very low in the beginning :hs:
     
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    Ceaze https://hearthis.at/DoYouEvenUplift Moderator

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    you were slightly low
     
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    michael FLORIDA > *

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    what was my test level at?
     
  13. cavefish

    cavefish You ain't a crook son, you just a shook one

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    Wouldn't YOU be in a better position to tell us that?
     
  14. SteveO

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    for real, you're the one who actually experienced it.. all of us are just talking from our ass or other peoples experience
     
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    Ceaze https://hearthis.at/DoYouEvenUplift Moderator

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  16. cavefish

    cavefish You ain't a crook son, you just a shook one

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    Well obviously you went to the wrong doctor.
     
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    :rofl:
     
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    Tell your dr he must have the paper upside down ducd...
     
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    yeah...normal levels are 241-830..for a 21 year old, 290 is incredibly low..you know this ceaze
     
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    Oh, and you don't.
     
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  22. SteveO

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    ok you just said 290 falls in the normal guideline, so obviously it's not incredibly low. It might be on the low side of normal, but it's not life threatning low.

    have you had any bloodwork since you started HRT?
     
  23. Mass

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    let those guys get on gear, watch themselves not see shit for gains, and if they do, watch them lose all their gains within the following month... seen it over and over
     
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    What the fuck? So this faggot should just start then, no worries? Should I also tell him to drink Michelob Ultra? :hsugh:
     
  25. cavefish

    cavefish You ain't a crook son, you just a shook one

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    Yeah but what do you think happened when they stopped taking it?
     
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